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Offline MCGRIDDLE_321

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« on: February 22, 2011, 01:03:56 PM »
i was out training with the well known Lance Smail last thursday, we got to bench talkin about 2 strokes. He told me that honda will have a 2012 cr250. im not sure how true this is but i do trust his word, coming from an old national pro who has alot of connections. im pumped if its true.
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Offline Charles Owens

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2011, 01:42:13 PM »
I wouldn't count on it. Honda has made it very clear that they will never make them again.
I don't see them going back on thier word.. again.

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2011, 02:39:20 PM »
i highly highly doubt it. The only company I wish bad for in motocross is honda

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2011, 02:47:36 PM »
I would not be surprised, however, I would be not surprised if they made steam engine either :-X. If they did make a cr85/125/150/250/500, trx250r, or even a nsr125/250/500 it would out sell anything they have out in the market. If you want to hear a possible rumor, toyota is exploring two strokes..
« Last Edit: February 23, 2011, 10:19:33 AM by factoryX »


I ride an 03 yz250, wait 04, wait 05, what ever, they're all the same #$@% YOU!

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2011, 03:24:57 PM »
He told me that honda will have a 2012 cr250

If so, i wonder if it would have a carburator ?

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2011, 03:32:10 PM »
Not gunna happen.
It would be the biggest about face in corporate history.
If you don't fall off you are not going hard enough

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2011, 03:38:33 PM »
The saving face thing is big amongst the japs.Honda is famous for coming up with a dumb arse idea and refusing to change it because it would look like they were wrong.I'd put money on the new Maico's arriving this spring before I'd put it on a Honda coming up with a new CR.
As far as that goes,I'd probably be better off putting my money on me being abducted by aliens-it would probably be a safer bet than either.
I'd rather a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy.

Offline GlennC

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2011, 05:33:53 PM »
The saving face thing is big amongst the japs.Honda is famous for coming up with a dumb arse idea and refusing to change it because it would look like they were wrong.I'd put money on the new Maico's arriving this spring before I'd put it on a Honda coming up with a new CR.
As far as that goes,I'd probably be better off putting my money on me being abducted by aliens-it would probably be a safer bet than either.

That would be a good bet, Who will sell 100 units of two stroke dirt bikes in America first Honda or Maico?

If its Honda I will take two.

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2011, 06:54:41 PM »
Let me see...Yes a HONDA CR250 to go along side my HONDA CR125, yep, I'll take one.  ;D
« Last Edit: February 22, 2011, 06:56:51 PM by TxTechRedRider »
07 Honda Cr125.   
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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2011, 08:21:22 PM »
I remember Lance Smail racing  125,s in supercross, a ncy yz125 and rm125 around 1993. Honda needs to  release the 85 and 125 also,I,ll take a 2012 cr 125 thank you.

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2011, 08:39:04 PM »
Dang, I just dumped a bunch of money into my 2000 CR 250. lol
I better start saving my pennies.
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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2011, 08:56:45 PM »
Ford I wouldn't worry about being abducted by aliens - I'm sure they value their peace and tranquility as well! :D

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2011, 04:32:26 AM »
Hahahahha.  :D
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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2011, 05:18:32 AM »
Well if you think about this it makes sense. The 4 st market is screwed, the economy is screwed, the bikes are expensive, unreliable,and the MAJORITY of riders are amateurs that can't afford to race a 4st. It's in all the magazines, editorials about two strokes are fun, fast and affordable.
I do see a comeback for the two stroke and soon. If not from the "other 3", Euro bikes for sure.
  Shockingly, Husaberg has two new 2st models, and if that doesn't say "shift in market trend" I don't know what else will.
  KTM stock is soaring, I have yet to check on Husquavarna, but they have a great 2st line up as well. With GasGas & TM having new USA distributors there's 2 more brands that will fill the void that "Sukawahonda" has created.
It might not be 2012 when we see a new CR, but I"ll bet we see the YZ line get a revamp, and new KX & RM's by 2015 with more ethanol friendly, and possibly, direct injection motors. I hope they keep the chro-mo frames, But I doubt they will, and as long as they don't get as heavy as the thumpers I suppose I wouldn't mind an aluminum chassis.
If a pair of 2" brass balls isn't working, I doubt that the 3" model will make much difference.

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Re: lil rumor
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2011, 05:34:21 AM »
I don't see Honda changing their current strategy.  The have stated they are a four stroke company. They will not make an about face, even if it means more company income.  That's not how the company was founded.  Back in the day when the Elsinore (CR 125 and CR 250) was born, Honda really didn't want to get into two strokes, but they realized they needed a two stroke platform to be competitive.  As the current rules give an unfair advantage to 4 pokes (thanks Honda), they feel they don't need the smoker to be competitive. 

That's my $.02 worth.
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