Courtney Duncan WMX at Hangtown Qualifies 1st on a YZ 125

[TotalNZ]

she would only be sixtysixth fastest at the ama 250 national. but she may produce some killer child bearing hips as a result of riding her two-stroke.

You may be right x, BUT there is no way a 125 is as fast as a 250F these days.
The other thing is how hard was she really trying?. You are not going to risk a crash when you have it over your competition and are that far in the lead.
She beat all the men in her first ever big bike race only a few months ago.
Left everyone shocked.
Josh Coppins says she can make a main and at this stage I would have to believe him.

I dunno who Josh Coppins is but I agree. I want to see it happen. She just walked all over those foopers on a machine half the displacement. Not only a HP and torque disadvantage, but harder to ride. I don't know about the rest of the track but that big hill is a place where a 250Fs power would come in right handy. Yet she still had a solid 5 second lead at least.

Talent much much?

Are you f***ing kidding me not knowing who Josh Coppin's is.
Are you sure you're into MX?

[shanes]

i had a bit of a laugh about that as well , guess some dont follow mx

[Stusmoke]

she would only be sixtysixth fastest at the ama 250 national. but she may produce some killer child bearing hips as a result of riding her two-stroke.

You may be right x, BUT there is no way a 125 is as fast as a 250F these days.
The other thing is how hard was she really trying?. You are not going to risk a crash when you have it over your competition and are that far in the lead.
She beat all the men in her first ever big bike race only a few months ago.
Left everyone shocked.
Josh Coppins says she can make a main and at this stage I would have to believe him.

I dunno who Josh Coppins is but I agree. I want to see it happen. She just walked all over those foopers on a machine half the displacement. Not only a HP and torque disadvantage, but harder to ride. I don't know about the rest of the track but that big hill is a place where a 250Fs power would come in right handy. Yet she still had a solid 5 second lead at least.

Talent much much?

Are you f***ing kidding me not knowing who Josh Coppin's is.
Are you sure you're into MX?

Quite sure. I just don't have tiem to follow it. Makes me sad 

i like women that have a little meat on their bones...very nice.

I hope for your sake that she doesn't read this. If you get a pedophila claim made against you we all know where its from

[TMKIWI]

Coppins won the Ozzie MX1 class last year Stu.
You heard of Google.?

[_X_]

nothing wrong with admiring beautiful young women stu. never said i want dibs. ha!

[Stusmoke]

nothing wrong with admiring beautiful young women stu. never said i want dibs. ha!

Im her age so its all good

Coppins won the Ozzie MX1 class last year Stu.
You heard of Google.?

How do you think I found TSM? Heres how I think: I could sit at my computer reading and occasionally watching motocross, or I can go down the paddock and get better at the real thing.

[Suzuki TS250/185]

A bystander video just showed up:

I don't know how the undercover 4 stroke trolls among us feel, but I'm looking at the speed of the 2 different bike types going up this big hill and the 125 with pipe and reed cage looks just as fast as the factory and professional team prepped, 100% advantage handicapped, fuel injected, 250 foopers.

4 Stroke trolls might be able to make a case for this is the video was shot on a tight s curve or something "Where the slower but lighter 2 stroke has an unfair advantage"... but this wide open uphill??? Seems to me that even a totally unskilled rider could do a decent job nailing the throttle up this hill. Situations like this where the terrain isn't acutely challenging are where the power of the BIKES show through with less input from rider skill.

And I see the half sized two stroke shooting up the hill just as fast as the foopers... So I'm not convinced that they are so much faster. Oh there's also the fact that the two stroke wasn't given a head start as far as I know, and all these riders are in the same racing class, and the 125 is like 1/2 a minute out in front...

I know undercover 4 stroke trolls don't agree, and I know that those who are passionate about getting equal displacement almost come off more like 4 stroke trolls than 2 stroke fans - because of the way they constantly talk down about 2 strokes and favorably about foopers, in order to try to justify their equal displacement desires.

But I know the 4 strokes don't look any faster in this fan video even though they have advantage after advantage piled up like cow patties.   

[lauterbacher]

  I agree on her speed,how do you explain her starts, it looks like she is 2nd or 3rd in her starts. if she was so underpowered on a 125 she would be getting killed on the starts and any corner advantage she has by her skill would be lost on those long portions of the track.















                                                                                                                             

[Stusmoke]

A bystander video just showed up:

I don't know how the undercover 4 stroke trolls among us feel, but I'm looking at the speed of the 2 different bike types going up this big hill and the 125 with pipe and reed cage looks just as fast as the factory and professional team prepped, 100% advantage handicapped, fuel injected, 250 foopers.

4 Stroke trolls might be able to make a case for this is the video was shot on a tight s curve or something "Where the slower but lighter 2 stroke has an unfair advantage"... but this wide open uphill??? Seems to me that even a totally unskilled rider could do a decent job nailing the throttle up this hill. Situations like this where the terrain isn't acutely challenging are where the power of the BIKES show through with less input from rider skill.

And I see the half sized two stroke shooting up the hill just as fast as the foopers... So I'm not convinced that they are so much faster. Oh there's also the fact that the two stroke wasn't given a head start as far as I know, and all these riders are in the same racing class, and the 125 is like 1/2 a minute out in front...

I know undercover 4 stroke trolls don't agree, and I know that those who are passionate about getting equal displacement almost come off more like 4 stroke trolls than 2 stroke fans - because of the way they constantly talk down about 2 strokes and favorably about foopers, in order to try to justify their equal displacement desires.

But I know the 4 strokes don't look any faster in this fan video even though they have advantage after advantage piled up like cow patties.   

Really? I can tell quite a different in how fast courtney made her way up that hill and the way the second place rider did whom I believe was riding a 250SXF. I was quite sure the 250Fs were all faster up that hill.

[Charles Owens]

Yeah, she even said the 250s killed her up the hills, said she had to make it up in the corners and momentum.

[Suzuki TS250/185]

Maybe, it's just that it sure doesn't look that way here. Just as it sure didn't look that way when Mike Brown and Grant Langston were racing the YZF250's up the hills at Glen Helen.

There was this weird disconnect between what the announcers where saying was happening... and what you could see happening with your own 2 eyes as the bikes raced up the hill.

Of course, you did have to time them back then because in the early laps of that race, the 4 stroke could still be seen in the same shot, unlike this example.

[scotty dog]

she would only be sixtysixth fastest at the ama 250 national. but she may produce some killer child bearing hips as a result of riding her two-stroke.

You may be right x, BUT there is no way a 125 is as fast as a 250F these days.
The other thing is how hard was she really trying?. You are not going to risk a crash when you have it over your competition and are that far in the lead.
She beat all the men in her first ever big bike race only a few months ago.
Left everyone shocked.
Josh Coppins says she can make a main and at this stage I would have to believe him.

I dunno who Josh Coppins is but I agree. I want to see it happen. She just walked all over those foopers on a machine half the displacement. Not only a HP and torque disadvantage, but harder to ride. I don't know about the rest of the track but that big hill is a place where a 250Fs power would come in right handy. Yet she still had a solid 5 second lead at least.

Talent much much?

Are you f***ing kidding me not knowing who Josh Coppin's is.
Are you sure you're into MX?

i said the same thing to myself! Are you kidding! geez Stu

[davo59]

Another guy you guys might have heard of is Darryl King. 2nd in world championships many moons ago, World Vet Champion last year, multi time New Zealand and Australian MX champion. He has won the New Zealand MX2 championships the last couple of years on a , wait for it, 2 stroke YZ250, against all the 4 strokes. He won in 2011 and 2010. He is still seriously quick despite being a Vet rider and has raced in the MX2 class for the last few years. He is finally is retiring this year and was in the top 3 of all the races in this years 2013 New Zealand MX2 class and may have won but for an injury half way through the series. Just for some added spice a number of Australian MX2 champions also come over to race the NZ championships. Great to see Kingy beating them all on his trusty YZ250 zinger. Another 2 stroker who came over to the NZ championships and did well and who is currently running 3rd in the 2013 Australian MX2 championships as we speak is Brock Winston riding a KTM250 zinger. So maybe all is not lost.  They can be competitive

Many riders in NZ often put 2 strokes into 4 stroke frames and do well with them. In fact there has been testing on a electronic fuel injected 2 stroke 500cc and has been doing well. Take a look at this. A CR500 2 stroke fuel injected in a YZF450 frame. Shows drags with 450 4 strokes. Ridden by a mutli champion MX rider. Designed and built in New Zealand. 105kgs wet, rider says rides like a 250 zinger.




Re Josh Coppins. Raced MX world championship GPs in Europe for 16 years, twice 2nd in MX1 world championships, only rider to beat Stefan Everts on a number of occasions, 2 times 3rd in MX of Nations including once being part of the team coming 3rd  in the USA.  Coppins took over Everts ride and Minaldi Yamaha and in 2006 or 2007 Coppins was so far in the lead in the MX1 he would have won the series in one more race but a stone jammed his rear brakes and threw  him into a fence and injured him putting him out of the championships. A very cruel blow considering he  had won some 6 GPs by mid season.  Coppins is also the current Australian MX1 champion and is a multi time British MX1 champion. He just retired this year and now runs the Yamaha team in NZ and is a test rider for the Yamaha factory team in Australia.

I think Coppins would have quite abit of insight into whether Courtney would qualify for a Pro mens race. I would agree with him for the reasons set out in the earlier posting. Saw an interveiew back here in NZ with Courtney Duncan the other day and she confirmed she will be racing the rest of the series in the USA and then do Lorreta Lynns and then see what happens from there.

[rlaj1004]

In fact there has been testing on a electronic fuel injected 2 stroke 500cc and has been doing well. Take a look at this. A CR500 2 stroke fuel injected in a YZF450 frame. Shows drags with 450 4 strokes. Ridden by a mutli champion MX rider. Designed and built in New Zealand. 105kgs wet, rider says rides like a 250 zinger.

Wait, What? I thought this can't be done ( fuel inject a 2 S ) And who was the EFI guys? Wheres Uniflow with his?

I want one 

[Stusmoke]

In fact there has been testing on a electronic fuel injected 2 stroke 500cc and has been doing well. Take a look at this. A CR500 2 stroke fuel injected in a YZF450 frame. Shows drags with 450 4 strokes. Ridden by a mutli champion MX rider. Designed and built in New Zealand. 105kgs wet, rider says rides like a 250 zinger.

Wait, What? I thought this can't be done ( fuel inject a 2 S ) And who was the EFI guys? Wheres Uniflow with his?

I want one 

It was posted up a fair while ago. I would rather see the KX500 EFIed than the CR500.