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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2013, 09:38:11 AM »

Please don't take my comments as criticisms to her. I was only pointing out the numbers. Since she is on the track at different times as the boys (either class), she is going to have a different time simply due to the development/degradation of the track. An example of that is Tomac's vs. Barcia's lap times. Obviously the track is way different when the 250F's qualify than when the 450F's qualify hence the 250F's being slightly quicker. In addition, she might be able to "crank it up a notch" if she had too. It seems she is just rolling around out there and not pushing herself since her competition isn't on her fender.

Wouldn't it be great to have a "girl" on a 125 qualify in the men's National 250F class? Just the thought of it brings tears to my eyes! She should try it at non-combined rounds - if for nothing else but to demoralize the BOYZ!
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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2013, 01:44:29 PM »
She could do this but if she is so used to podium finishes then completing a moto near last would be quite a shock. By the Hangtown lap times that is what would happen. That said, if she did qualify for the show and was able to finish ahead of even a single 250F that would be amazing. Renner came close (but on a 144).


Please don't take my comments as criticisms to her. I was only pointing out the numbers. Since she is on the track at different times as the boys (either class), she is going to have a different time simply due to the development/degradation of the track. An example of that is Tomac's vs. Barcia's lap times. Obviously the track is way different when the 250F's qualify than when the 450F's qualify hence the 250F's being slightly quicker. In addition, she might be able to "crank it up a notch" if she had too. It seems she is just rolling around out there and not pushing herself since her competition isn't on her fender.

Wouldn't it be great to have a "girl" on a 125 qualify in the men's National 250F class? Just the thought of it brings tears to my eyes! She should try it at non-combined rounds - if for nothing else but to demoralize the BOYZ!
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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2013, 01:59:20 PM »
Also keep in mind this is her first year on a 'big bike'
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« Reply #48 on: May 20, 2013, 03:08:27 PM »
She is very CLEARLY an over the top talented rider!  ;D

Also keep in mind this is her first year on a 'big bike'
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« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2013, 11:12:07 PM »
she could never qualify for the mens pro class.
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« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2013, 12:48:22 AM »
 Racer X

I wouldn't rule our Courtney Duncan never qualifying for a Mens Pro race.  Here is some facts you may not know.

We all said the same thing in New Zealand when she started racing the guys but she proved us very very wrong. Not only did she qualify for her very first senior race against men in the (February) 2013 New Zealand championships 125cc class (we are lucky enough to have a 125cc championship as well as the 250 and 450), she went on to win the round, convincingly, against the men. The rougher the track got the faster she went. She was the only girl at the championship.

Her laps times that day would have also qualified her for the New Zealand championships 250cc Pro and the 450cc Pro open. Ben Townley raced and many Australian champion riders also came over to race that meeting.

Of worthy note: She also got 6th overall (including a 3rd in one race) in the World FIM Junior Championships in the 13 -16 85cc class against all the boys. She was the only female rider at the event. This was in the junior world FIM championships, the same one Eli Tomac won that year.

Now I am not saying that means a lot in the USA where the pro riders are all seriously fast, so I will give a little more info....

In Hangtown she was riding a 125 with a near stock 125 engine (it was not a 144) , as I understand she just had a pipe and some reeds. It was her very first ever Pro Race in the USA. She had never been to that track before. She has only been riding the 125cc this year. She just turned 17. She has no factory support and she had a friend from New Zealand spannering for her. They drove across the USA in a small RV. Her 1st qualifying time was 2.13. She won the 1st race by 29 seconds and the 2nd by 14 seconds.  It seems too on the day, I was there, that she had more in the tank as well. Makes the feat all the more incredible when you start adding it all up.

Give her a few more years racing, a factory supported bike, with some more experience in the USA  and I think she may well qualify, in fact I know she will.

Remember a lot us said the exact same thing and we had to swallow our words when she cleaned up against the best riders in New Zealand in the 2013 New Zealand 125cc championship round back in February where she was the only girl racing. (and she had only just started racing the 125cc and had only just come back from a year off due to injury). A lot of senior pro racers (125cc class) where left shaking their head that day........ :o

She also came 3rd behind Cooper Webb last year in the 85/150cc class in USA as well and Cooper Webb was around top 10 at Hangtown wasnt he

Food for thought  8)

How about a friendly wager??

 



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« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2013, 02:43:52 AM »
Will she be at south**** for the national?
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« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2013, 10:32:51 PM »
if proven wrong, i will say i was wrong. not going to drink the kool aid. this is a mans world and the sooner she realizes that the better off she will be. that being said, i do applaud her efforts to represent her two stroke brethren.
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« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2013, 12:39:49 AM »
this is a mans world

HA HA HA Ha ha ha he he he he he heheheheheheh

You are too funny.
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« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2013, 09:27:05 AM »
I'm a fan. I think it is great and I think she'll be "bigger than Bubba!" She doesn't even have to win a (men's) championship. Just show up and run near the front - like Danicka.

Unfortunately, to do so she's gonna have to cross over to the dark side and cough cough ride a 250F. Sorry, don't throw beer bottles at me. There is no chicken wire protecting this stage.

Personally, I hope she does at least a partial season in the mens group on the 125. It'll make my heart swell 3 sizes too big!
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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2013, 09:30:52 AM »
Racing, is indeed, mainly a "mans world".

But, if you have followed Courtney's progress, you can see clearly that she is shooting for that "mans world".

That she is doing so, I hope, will encourage more woman to get out of their "comfort zones", and try to become better and better. I'd hoped that Ashley Fiolek, and other US WMX riders, would make an effort, and try to progress further. Ashley, has / had access to bikes competitive with anything on the line of a US National. But, she's elected to retire - as she has every right to - she's been at racing for a long, long time, and it seems she has chosen to move on. Though, reportedly, she's answered questions about her retirement with "the series sucks". Her ambitions, may have been achieved, and they appear to have been limited to women's racing.

The race on the weekend was reportedly Courtney's first "Pro" race of her career.

She's been reported as having always seen herself as a "racer" - not a WMX racer only.

She's only 17 - she has many years ahead of her, if she continues with her career.

I see no reason that her gender should restrict her from succeeding - talent is not only the province of men on a bike. And, her size should not be a disadvantage - many male MC racers are small.

I wish her well, and hope she gets to the level of success She is aiming for. She's a highly talented Motocross rider, that's at the very beginning of her Pro career.
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« Reply #56 on: May 23, 2013, 04:00:23 AM »
correction Renner DID qualify last year. At RED BUD, a track that you would think would help 4ts with deep ruts, big jumps, and lots of soft dirt. he JUST barely made the top 36. if i didnt there wouldve been no way he could qual in a race. he finished like 36-38 for the day i think?

She could do this but if she is so used to podium finishes then completing a moto near last would be quite a shock. By the Hangtown lap times that is what would happen. That said, if she did qualify for the show and was able to finish ahead of even a single 250F that would be amazing. Renner came close (but on a 144).


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« Reply #57 on: May 23, 2013, 05:15:32 AM »
Right you are. 34th place.
I thought in one race last year he used a 144 but in the last supercross (was it New Orleans?) he stuck to a 125 and did not make the show. I was not aware of RedBud. That said I wonder how his lap times compared to the leaders and how that compares with Courtney's lap times against the 250F top tier racers at Hangtown last weekend?

http://www.americanmotocrossresults.com/live/archives/mx/2012/06/250_overall.pdf
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« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2013, 05:29:05 AM »
well Livia Lancelot races with the men in MX2 world MX and she qualifies , i hope Courtney can do the same one day . i watched Livia race at the Thailand round the girl is fast thats for sure


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« Reply #59 on: May 23, 2013, 05:38:07 AM »
Courtney is locked in with Yamaha through LL's.

She's staying at MTF, Colleen Millsaps has been our 'mediator'.

"She is planning on going to a 4 stroke next year but as of yet has nothing solid in the USA.. 
She is however interested in running the KTM next year, so she would be very happy to speak with you about doing that!"

We invited her to come by at High Point and meet the team and check out the bikes. Colleen said she would send her our way.

She has a good training program in place, raw talent and desire. I think she could qualify in the 250 or 450 class next year.

We would love to have her.
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