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Offline SachsGS

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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2013, 04:51:05 PM »
Soft, medium or hard - you have to match the compound (and width) to the bike and the terrain. I ride offroad and plan to try out the Metzler 6 Days Extreme tires (same tires as Taddy), I've been hearing very good things about them. Continental and Heidenau are now producing off road tires at reasonable prices so I'm going to check them out this season as well, probably on my vintage bike.

 I never go cheap on tires, too easy to get hurt, and while I've tried lots of different brands over the years I always find myself back on the three brands I've mentioned.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2013, 05:31:32 PM »
I'm not ignoring your input Sachs I promise  ;D But Michelin seems to be the popular choice around here. So if I go with Michelin, I should look for a 130 so that it equates to a 110 by other standards. How about the durability? I ride everything from rocks, hard pack, to deep sand and mud (gotta love New England  :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley"> ). But I got a bunch of seasons to figure out the combo I like best, so I'll probably try all listed here and see what I get for results. The only reason I wanted to go up in tire size was because my friend on a 250f put on some 120's and seems to be able to hook way better (maybe due to the mellow power curve of a 250f though).

I think my front is good to go, it very rarely washes out and hold its own through pretty much anything, so I'm going to leave that be for now. It just seems the rear slides out and spins excessively.
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2013, 09:07:57 PM »
Ignore Sachs' input  :D,he's trying to sell you on 3 german tires-now who'da thunk it. :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">
I can't speak for the metzler 6 days,it may be the cat's arse,I've never used it.I have used Continental and metzler in the past and was very unhappy with all of them-of course,i haven't used every model either.
I really don't care what country a tire comes from,so long as it works.If I had the bucks and desire to change rear tires every ride,I'd run a Dunlop 756.The problem is,the edges wear quickly and when they do,performance drops of dramatically-not so with the S12.It wears but maintains performance when worn down.
Unless you ride the same track,I don't know how you can target one type of terrain.A typical ride around here will consist of granite,shale,sand,clay and goo.That's why I want a tire that performs well everywhere-maybe not the best for a given situation,but best all around.
I buy an s12,something else,another s12,something else and so on-always looking for a better skin. :)
New England terrain is about the same as NS so I expect an S12 would suit you well.
If you decide to get one,make sure it's an S12 XC.The XC's are a little harder and wear a little better-though both are great.
Your 250 has a 215 rim so a 110(130 michelin) is what you want.A 120(140M) will give you slightly better traction with slightly less cornering ability.It's not enough to be a big deal either way.
I have a 51 rear sprocket on mine and the clearance is the same as all the 110's I've had of other brands.
Whatever you decide,give us a RR.(btw,I run 12psi in mine)




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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2013, 10:40:04 PM »
If you're going to be riding in rocking and harsh terrain, forget the 204/203 combo cos that will shread them.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2013, 08:16:55 AM »
you cant go wrong with the 952's....  our track here goes from sand to blue groove and the 952's both hook up great on the sand and dont seem to rip up so fast on the blue groove.  The Maxxis wear great on the hard pack but kinda suck in the sand.  Give the 952's a try and see what you think. Of course 110's for a 250...
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2013, 04:02:32 PM »
I've run Metzler, Dunlop and Pirelli, love em all,and if I look at tire feel, grip, chunking and wear it seems the Metz is the best compromise for an offroad situation. I'd probably run Dunlops for MX.

As far as the Asian tires go I'll only touch the Japanese tires, I've run Bridgestone in the past and been happy.

The Conti's and the Heidenau's may be junk, I'll find out.

I've tried Michelins in the past and found them to be (for me) an imprecise tire. I hated them and, for the money I'd just get something else I know I'll be happy with.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2013, 04:08:58 PM »
Agreed somewhat  ;D The S12 rear and M12 front may be anomalies,I can't name another Michelin combo I like,and the M12 rear is truly poison until it wears down some(and even then it's fairly grim)-unless you ride in sand.
The 952 is a good choice as well and good value.Modelled after the 752 with a little harder compound and wider knob base if I remember correctly.It's a decent tire at a good price point-but doesn't perform like the S12 XC imo.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2013, 04:17:17 PM »


Motoz Enduro ST is the best for the OP's needs... for a cheaper Asian tire, Duro is a good tire. 
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« Reply #23 on: March 16, 2013, 06:30:09 PM »
For strictly trails only I've grown to love the MT43 trials tire. I've been running them off-road for 3 years now on my bikes. I wouldn't use one on an MX track though.
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« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2013, 01:16:51 AM »
If you are running both woods and MX I'd be more concerned about your suspension. With suspensions stiff enough not to bottom on basic MX stuff I ran at the GNCC at unadilla and every time you hit something, like roots or a bump or whatever, the front end would bounce and try and send you into a tree. This is a 0.48 spring. For the winter stuff I have a softer set of forks, with a 0.45 front spring and it works so much better than the stiffer stuff and it was using much of the fork travel. Those numbers will mean precisely squat for your application, but should give you an idea that if you want to run something stiff enough for MX it will probably be too stiff for a hare scramble, and something soft enough to get through some tight bumpy woods stuff will be too soft  for MX jumps and you will bottom on everything.
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« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2013, 02:00:23 AM »
I have been able to find a kind of happy-medium that requires minimum adjusting between woods and track. I run pretty stiff forks for the sake of track riding, and in the woods I try to let to front glide over stuff by leaning back, and the back I keep fairly plush so that everything I skim over with the front the back can absorb nicely. Of course this isn't the best method, as the front end picks up every time I get decent traction. I'm not a "big air" kind of guy, so you don't see me tripling up and flying like an FMX pro, but I see what your saying. As I get more comfortable with my new to me KYB suspension, I may end up becoming a mainly track racer, or try to make the best out of it with the suspension set up. Only time will tell.
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2013, 04:48:06 AM »
Pirelli scorpion on the front bridgestone 404 on the rear is my favorite combo. I ride mostly mx but ride a little bit of CC here and there.
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« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2013, 03:24:12 PM »
I've always believed that if the tyre compound is suited to the terrain, is not overpriced,  and is the right size,  throw it on and go wear the bastard out ;)
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« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2013, 01:01:38 AM »
I'm gonna be running some hare scrambles and im gonna being using a fresh set of MX51's so i'll tell you how it works out!
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