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Offline cnrcpla

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« on: March 14, 2013, 04:53:44 PM »
I plan on running lots of track races and lots of hare scrambles this season. But I noticed towards the end of my woods riding season that the 110's (M404) just aren't hooking up as much as I'd like in the mud (understandably) and the sand. I was thinking of running 120's for the sake of woods racing, but how would this affect my track handling? I don't want to sacrifice any flickability or cornering speed, so maybe stick with a better 110? And I'm looking for a durable tire as well, my 250 eats rear tires like candy  ;D
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 05:06:14 PM »
hey cnrcpla my woods buddies run either the maxxis max cross SI or the dunlop 952.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 06:18:04 PM »
In the standard 110 tire size? I'm dying to find something that hooks up half way decent in the woods.
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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 07:02:44 PM »
I wouldn't deviate from the the 110.A michelin s12 is my rear tire of choice for everything with an m12 front(not the other way way around-terrible combination)
I've tried most all and keep coming back to this set up.When I find something better for wear and traction in all conditions,I'll post it up. :)
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« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 07:15:43 PM »
i'm with ford on the size issue. its probably your currant tire tread as opposed to tire width that is not hooking up.
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2013, 08:14:06 PM »
One last thought on the size.If you go with a Michelin,make sure it's an actual 110.Sometimes there's a sticker on the side designating that.A typical Michelin 130 is a 110 in everything else.Why?Nobody knows except that they're frenchies and that's what Frenchies do. :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2013, 08:48:47 PM »
Im a michelin fan as well they hold up well the s12 is great i do like the ms3 as well but more durabillity and the m12 is great if conditions get a bit harder although you cant turn it as to the sizing a cant say i really notice a dramatic difference between the 110 and 120
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 12:42:06 AM »
True. The 110 Michelin on my 125 looks like a bicycle tire    :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 02:09:09 AM »
Bigger (wider) tires weigh more and affect suspension and acceleration. I personally don't like Michelins (at all) and prefer to run either Metzler, Dunlop or Pirelli.
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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 02:17:55 AM »
wich make of those brands sachs? the kid needs to know to form his consensus. lets go here, help a brother out.
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 02:32:03 AM »
Quote from: beaner on March 15, 2013, 07:42:06 AM
True. The 110 Michelin on my 125 looks like a bicycle tire    :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

A 100 tire = a 120 Michelin
A 110 tire =  a 130 Michelin

Your 110 would be a 90 in anything else.I was told once Michelin takes their width measurement from farther down toward the bead.my s12 is stamped 130 and is the same width and fit as all my Dunlops,bridgestones,Kendas,Maxxis etc. in a 110.
Easy to get stung if you're not accustomed to running Michelins.My last set had a yellow sticker on it designating it as a 110-but 130 pressed into the rubber.
Weight wise,Michelins tend to be on the lighter side,on the other hand,I run bridgestone heavy duty tubes so it sort of negates that.Few people will run an S12 rear and not like it.I've got no love for the starcross series though,and the M12 rear is the worst tire ever produced imo.(but love the m12 front)
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 03:01:48 AM »
you should consider the 204 and 203 mate. I run the set and they are awesome on the track. Don't go overboard on the site, stick with the 110. There is such a thing as too much traction and in soft , loamy dirt where the tires are at home, you simply can't flick it around with the throttle as much. I ordered a 100 for my 125, D**k heads sent me a 110 and it makes flicking the bike around difficult and if you fall of the pipe you go literally nowhere.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2013, 10:37:49 AM »
Quote from: Stusmoke on March 15, 2013, 10:01:48 AM
you should consider the 204 and 203 mate. I run the set and they are awesome on the track. Don't go overboard on the site, stick with the 110. There is such a thing as too much traction and in soft , loamy dirt where the tires are at home, you simply can't flick it around with the throttle as much. I ordered a 100 for my 125, D**k heads sent me a 110 and it makes flicking the bike around difficult and if you fall of the pipe you go literally nowhere.

A YZ would pull it. :D  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2013, 12:05:24 PM »
Quote from: ford832 on March 15, 2013, 05:37:49 PM
Quote from: Stusmoke on March 15, 2013, 10:01:48 AM
you should consider the 204 and 203 mate. I run the set and they are awesome on the track. Don't go overboard on the site, stick with the 110. There is such a thing as too much traction and in soft , loamy dirt where the tires are at home, you simply can't flick it around with the throttle as much. I ordered a 100 for my 125, D**k heads sent me a 110 and it makes flicking the bike around difficult and if you fall of the pipe you go literally nowhere.

A YZ would pull it. :D  ;)

If theres one compound word I had to use to describe you ford, its shit stire :D You are quite right though. My CR has about as much motor as my whipper snipper.
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2013, 02:59:29 PM »
Who,me?  ;D
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