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Offline VintageBlueSmoke

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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 09:40:48 AM »
I could be wrong, but in my experience (dealing with Southerners from America) I don't think so. Obviously the world doesn't revolve around Florida (it really revolves around those knit-whits in Kalifornia) so my opinion is skewed. That being what it is, 99% of the people who converted to 4T in the marine industry there did so for fuel economy and could care less about the environment, but they did so by brand. I don't know about your area but at most fuel docks, gas is usually more than a dollar greater than at the expensive land based gas stations in the area.

Of course, DI 2T a good alternative but when the changes started, we didn't have a reliable DI system in place (or the techs to work on them!) for several years. By then...people had committed to what they knew.
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2013, 03:12:48 PM »
Those 250+ hp Yamaha sleds are turbo charged and seem to last about as long as a fruit fly. ;D
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« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2013, 07:34:43 PM »
Quote from: SachsGS on February 21, 2013, 11:12:48 PM
Those 250+ hp Yamaha sleds are turbo charged and seem to last about as long as a fruit fly. ;D

Hard to believe that when you wring every bit of power out of an engine you make it fragile. :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley"> Fwiw,the Yamaha's are basically an R1 streetbike engine.

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/sno/advantage/page3.aspx
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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2013, 12:14:39 PM »
you can push the motors harder when they arnt under full load.

a jetski motor isnt nearly under the same loads as a bike.
all it has to do is spin a propeller
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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2013, 12:18:35 PM »
ALthough I think those suzuki motors are pretty neat Ill put this out there.

once you add an alternator, a primary drive, a clutch and a 6 speed gearbox, that suzuki motor wont be any more compact than a Yamaha RZ/Banshee motor.

You can easily and cheaply get that much power from a banshee/RZ motor, people have added EFI to them in the past with kits you purchase over the internet, and they fit into MX bike frames as done by a few people already.

In saying all of this, I am still trying to convince Neil to merge a sled motor with a 600 sport bike gearbox so that it will drop straight in, because I do see the benefits of a modern/reliable big bore EFI 2T.
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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2013, 12:31:40 PM »
$2900 gets you this.

MXZ800 snowmobile cylinders bolt straight onto it, add an off the shelf billet clutch, off shelf billet crank and a 6 speed gearbox and your good to go :)

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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2013, 03:31:50 PM »
Who makes those cases? ;D
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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2013, 04:26:11 PM »
Um, yeah, who makes the cases  ;D
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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2013, 02:33:58 AM »
Matoon makes the billet cases for banshees to support everything from stock stroke to 30mm stroked mountain motors.
Cylinder spacing can vary from std to 150mm to support sled cylinders or 98mm bore racing cylinders (imagine a 98x98mm twin)

Then to add to this you can have it made as a triple or four cylinder.

I would love to have a 120 degree 1263cc triple utilising a billet crank clutch and gearbox.
As much as a 2000cc four cylinder apeals, I think it would be too much for anyone accept for a promos drag bike.
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« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2013, 06:17:52 AM »
what about using  Dassa crank and cylinders , here  is a 1200 cc billet engine


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« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2013, 07:29:40 AM »
would need a clutch and gearbox added to make it any good for what I want.  :o

and being a jetski motor Im not sure that it would have edqaute cooling capacity for non aquatic duties? how does a jetsky cool the motor? through a very efficient heat exchange?

How much power those 1200's put out standard?
From what I've heard those monster 1000cc twin banshees are around the 200hp mark, but you never know because those banshee riders are always full of **** haha

Id imagine itd vibrate enough to satisfy any woman?
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« Reply #41 on: April 17, 2013, 07:34:42 AM »
Quote from: Jeram on April 17, 2013, 02:29:40 PM
would need a clutch and gearbox added to make it any good for what I want.  :o

and being a jetski motor Im not sure that it would have edqaute cooling capacity for non aquatic duties? how does a jetsky cool the motor? through a very efficient heat exchange?

How much power those 1200's put out standard?
From what I've heard those monster 1000cc twin banshees are around the 200hp mark, but you never know because those banshee riders are always full of **** haha

Id imagine itd vibrate enough to satisfy any woman?

they are water cooled , i have a 1100 cc in my ski , Dassa said around 180 - 200 HP depending on squish and try of fuel im running , top end power from 1000-1200 about the same it the torque and hit that you notice
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« Reply #42 on: April 17, 2013, 09:57:42 AM »
Would be lovely in a miata  :P
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« Reply #43 on: April 17, 2013, 10:21:21 AM »
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« Reply #44 on: April 17, 2013, 02:39:36 PM »
Yes and no, the motor's listed above are set up better  :-
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