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Offline luthier269

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What two stroke pre mix is best?
« on: December 08, 2009, 07:58:21 PM »
I would like your opinon. I've been using Pj1 gold fire but its getting hard to find around here. I'm looking to switch to an oil thats easy to find here. The main choices are Yamalube,red line, All the Maxima oils,Belray ,Motul,golden spetro. Thanks
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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2009, 08:08:03 PM »
Choosing a two-stroke oil is a very personal decision!!!  ;D

Personally I have used Golden Spectro, Yamalube, Maxima and Bel Ray. I think any one of them would serve you well. The idea is not to mix them, sometimes they don't play well together.

When I used to ride every week, I used to buy two-stroke oil by the case. It was cheaper that way, I didn't have to go anyplace to pick it up and it was never out of stock at my local dealer.
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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2009, 08:15:10 PM »
Nothing beats the bean. ;D

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2009, 08:34:06 PM »
I agree with the General. There are only 2 considerations I will point out here.

1. It's 2010 and you SHOULD be using a synthetic.

2. Pick a brand and stick with it (jet accordingly).

3. Pick a pre-mix ratio and stick with it.

You are correct...I am found wanting in mathematical skills :-*

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 07:01:14 AM »
read your owners manual

my tm85  needs 32:1

but my on ktm85 its  recommended 40:1

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 08:30:52 AM »
There are reasons for this. If you look close, you will see that most owners manuals also reccomend a specific brand of oil. The oil manufacturer PAYS for this. It's advertising. Also, think about this...each oil manufacturer has its own idea of how to lubricate and what to use to achieve that purpose. To that end, every manufacturers oil will have a different viscosity when mixed with fuel. So.........when you don't use the oil specified in the owners manual, you are literally changing the specific gravity of the fluid (fuel). Your particular bike was jetted from the factory for the oil and pre-mix ratio specified in the manual. Any deviation from this will require a jet change.

See my above post.

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2009, 07:52:10 PM »
my dinosaurs run 32:1 Amsoil or Maxima,both are great oils,and smell good too! ... I mix with pump premium, for the dirtbikes, and the RZs/RDs NEVER run less than 100 oct...I learned that lesson,the only way I know how:the hard way.
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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 09:41:15 PM »
Hey, there is now strawberry scented two stroke oil out there, good buy?
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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 05:38:51 PM »
if were giving suggestions, well then, i run 32:1 rock oil syn 2. i have ran it in my last 4 cr250's and have no complaints. its pricey and when mixing it with leaded 110. its very pricey but my bikes always run strong.

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 05:45:25 PM »
The strawberry smelling stuff is Ipone.It's good oil and smells good too(and made by Motul).I use Motul 800 and have no issues-but it lacks the strawberry smell. :(
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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 06:54:50 PM »
I fully agree modern synthetics have a lot of plusses...however with ANY "performance" two stroke oil price is not one of them!

You would surprise yourself trying the cheapest outboard boat oil you can find that's certified TC -w3 or whatever that is...

Walmart supertech is less than 10 a gallon, and will blow your mind in performance when mixed at appropriate ratios (around 30:1 for most people works great)

Penzoil's oil is great too...along with a lot of other "budget" outboard oils.

As far as mx specific oils, pretty much can't go wrong if you mix at the right ratio for your application, some of the amsoil products burn incredibly clean though I have had some odd issues with it in other areas.
Castor 927 is IMHO the best all out race lubricant but I suggest frequent tear downs with it for carbon.

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2010, 01:52:54 PM »
Not sure if you can get it in the states but here in the UK most people use Putolene MX5 fully synthetic, its really good - I tried MX7 which is a bit thicker but found my plugs got to fouled to quickly so MX5 works the best

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2010, 04:22:35 PM »
if there is a RC valve I would stay away from any castor oil!

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2010, 07:23:49 PM »
 I use Maxima 927.

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Re: What two stroke pre mix is best?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2010, 04:31:09 PM »
Motul 800 always.The best I've found to date for protection and engine cleanliness at tear down.
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