who rides what?

[scotty dog]

So many Honda's 

Ye for a two stroke only website we seem to support the antichrist, why don't we ride KTM's and TM`s and Yamaha`s etc? If those hondas aren't Service Honda's then we seem to be supporting the wrong people and don't think used bikes don't make any difference I bet the majority of the profit from each bike comes from the parts sales and not from the sale of the actual bike.

Come on guys support the people who support our sport. Not the ones who are trying to kill it

If  your willing to buy me a new TM 300 mx i'll gladly sell my CR til then i'll ride what i got!!
I dont buy Genuine parts either so i'm not supporting Honda with my dollars, I have supported FMF, Wiseco and Michelin so far. nom de guerre is right too about Honda quality.
If any of those Hondas were of the 4 stroke variety then you could say somethin but i doubt any are..

[maicoman009]

 I ride a 2011 KTM-300xc but I would love to have a 2013 KTM-300exc or xc-w 6 Days model!...

[azrider44]

I currently own and ride a 2008 crf250r  " title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

But i would like to trade it for a cr250, just having a hard time putting my foot down.

[citabjockey]

KTM 380SX, also a passel of old Yamaha Enduro and MX.

[Stusmoke]

So many Honda's 

Ye for a two stroke only website we seem to support the antichrist, why don't we ride KTM's and TM`s and Yamaha`s etc? If those hondas aren't Service Honda's then we seem to be supporting the wrong people and don't think used bikes don't make any difference I bet the majority of the profit from each bike comes from the parts sales and not from the sale of the actual bike.

Come on guys support the people who support our sport. Not the ones who are trying to kill it.

For someone who rides a two stroke you don't think about things very hard.
Unless Honda makes a profit on used bike sales then people who own Honda two strokes are no more supporting Honda themselves as they are Al Qeada. Unless ofcourse they're buying genuine parts which I've never heard of anyone doing.
But hey, if you're willing to buy me a brand new KTM of my choosing i'll happily disown my Yammie.

It was really stupid to say that dude

I currently own and ride a 2008 crf250r  " title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

But i would like to trade it for a cr250, just having a hard time putting my foot down.

Don't hesitate. I rode a 2005 CRF250R for about 10 hours before it grenaded, got told 3 grand to fix it. In 3 weeks I swung my leg over my 2001 YZ250 which cost a $1600. Yeah thats right a little over half of what fixing the **** box would've.
best decision of my life mate. The hit of the powerband and being able to BURY the thing into corners had me sold on two strokes for life after I drove out the gate.
You will NOT regret switching to the smokers that I promise. Do it

[VintageBlueSmoke]

Somehow we should open up the poll to allow multiple bikes. I see in everyones signature different bikes and brands. The poll is not accurate if we are restricted to a single bike. I posted Husqvarna because I have 6 of them, but I spend a lot of time on the Beta and Can-Am. In 2 weeks, I'll be racing the Penton and in July and August I'll be on the KTM.

And I think the point of gpnewhouse7 was that we should be BUYING new bikes and not riding old ones just to be on a 4-stroke. And he has a point. This isn't a vintage MX site, it is a site for promoting 2 strokes (and bashing 4$trokes  ) and the best way to get your point across is to let the manufacturers know that 1) yes you have money to spend and 2) you won't buy a 4$. Even if you bought a 2012 RM 250 (basically an '07), you are telling Suzuki loud and clear what the market wants. Not buying a new bike, and getting a used '07 just tells Suzuki you have no money.

Note: I just used Suzuki as an example. No need to go into it.

[gpnewhouse7]

Somehow we should open up the poll to allow multiple bikes. I see in everyones signature different bikes and brands. The poll is not accurate if we are restricted to a single bike. I posted Husqvarna because I have 6 of them, but I spend a lot of time on the Beta and Can-Am. In 2 weeks, I'll be racing the Penton and in July and August I'll be on the KTM.

And I think the point of gpnewhouse7 was that we should be BUYING new bikes and not riding old ones just to be on a 4-stroke. And he has a point. This isn't a vintage MX site, it is a site for promoting 2 strokes (and bashing 4$trokes  ) and the best way to get your point across is to let the manufacturers know that 1) yes you have money to spend and 2) you won't buy a 4$. Even if you bought a 2012 RM 250 (basically an '07), you are telling Suzuki loud and clear what the market wants. Not buying a new bike, and getting a used '07 just tells Suzuki you have no money.

Note: I just used Suzuki as an example. No need to go into it.

YES, there is no point in sending honda and the AMA emails and posting on their favebook walls but they aren't going to be botherd. Suzuki being out sold by KTM`s two stroke division IS an eye opener, let's face it the manufacturers build what sell and the AMA/FIM find a class for that bike to race in.

[VintageBlueSmoke]

the AMA/FIM find a class for that bike to race in

I have yet to be turned away at a race in any country I've raced in. Most organizations will bend the rules for you if necessary, just to get you to participate. For instance, I ride vintage open class bikes in MX1 (we don't have an MX3 class in Portugal). If I was dominating, they might say something but since I am mid pack and back, I'm not taking trophies away from anyone, so no one protests.

Truth is, they are more concerned with the color of my numbers than the bike I ride. I was DQ'd at the last race because I used a black background with yellow numbers (last minute bike change - approved by the organization). It was fair and within the rules. I hold no ill will and I thank them for letting me race at all (and not ruining and wasting a long distance trip to the event!) because participating it the whole point! Sure, some folks make a living at it, but I'm not one of them. I'm just there to have fun.

That said, in the US and some other places, as an amateur, you have fair rules "in the AMA". You just have to coax your track to use them. What we are asking for it for the same rules to be used by the PROS.

[scotty dog]

Somehow we should open up the poll to allow multiple bikes. I see in everyones signature different bikes and brands. The poll is not accurate if we are restricted to a single bike. I posted Husqvarna because I have 6 of them, but I spend a lot of time on the Beta and Can-Am. In 2 weeks, I'll be racing the Penton and in July and August I'll be on the KTM.

And I think the point of gpnewhouse7 was that we should be BUYING new bikes and not riding old ones just to be on a 4-stroke. And he has a point. This isn't a vintage MX site, it is a site for promoting 2 strokes (and bashing 4$trokes  ) and the best way to get your point across is to let the manufacturers know that 1) yes you have money to spend and 2) you won't buy a 4$. Even if you bought a 2012 RM 250 (basically an '07), you are telling Suzuki loud and clear what the market wants. Not buying a new bike, and getting a used '07 just tells Suzuki you have no money.

Note: I just used Suzuki as an example. No need to go into it.

Trust me VBS, if i had the money i would buy new bikes, i wouldnt sell any , just collect. You cant have too many bikes 

[Stusmoke]

If I had deeper pockets I'd pick up the new 150SX when it comes out. Turn it into a four stroke eater. Yeah it probably will be by stock stock but I'd overhaul it in every racelegal possible way.

 

the AMA/FIM find a class for that bike to race in

I have yet to be turned away at a race in any country I've raced in. Most organizations will bend the rules for you if necessary, just to get you to participate. For instance, I ride vintage open class bikes in MX1 (we don't have an MX3 class in Portugal). If I was dominating, they might say something but since I am mid pack and back, I'm not taking trophies away from anyone, so no one protests.

Truth is, they are more concerned with the color of my numbers than the bike I ride. I was DQ'd at the last race because I used a black background with yellow numbers (last minute bike change - approved by the organization). It was fair and within the rules. I hold no ill will and I thank them for letting me race at all (and not ruining and wasting a long distance trip to the event!) because participating it the whole point! Sure, some folks make a living at it, but I'm not one of them. I'm just there to have fun.

That said, in the US and some other places, as an amateur, you have fair rules "in the AMA". You just have to coax your track to use them. What we are asking for it for the same rules to be used by the PROS.

I agree. I've seen a guy be allowed to race a bored out YZ490 in the MX 2 class. He made it clear he was just a beginner and needed a cheap entry into the sport. That there was no way in hell he was going to be using all the power and would ride slowly to ajust to the racetrack. Why was he allowed to race? A.) He didn't bring that many pairs of undies so he probably wouldn't use full power. Or even half... B.) This isn't even an affiliated track, its a bunch of weekend warriors that, while they like to think they're hot **** and ride like Barcia, they arent. and  C.) The guy that owns that track is actually an all time 2 smoker and wanted them to participate. Hell he probably would've let a maico 700 enter.

Fact of the matter is, most of them are out there to have fun, not win big money (although they need it for the bikes). The guy that owns the track is a legend, he hasn't changed the track at all since the rise of the fag machine. So yeah, on a track thats built for WOT the 250s are often at the head of the pack when they participate. IF the rider is good

[compmoto]

I'm using a 2000 EC200, and RM250 for woods riding duties, and will soon have a 99 EC300 on the track. Still trying to find the time for the 82 Maico 490...I replaced the rear shock with an Ohlins, and just need to finish up some details. 77 YZ250, and 79 YZ125 also need time and attention. I also have a street RZ350, and one for the track. I'm thinking I can say I'm a "2 stroke enthusiast" ... just don't tell anyone about my Cannondale/ATK addiction...

[gpnewhouse7]

I'm using a 2000 EC200, and RM250 for woods riding duties, and will soon have a 99 EC300 on the track. Still trying to find the time for the 82 Maico 490...I replaced the rear shock with an Ohlins, and just need to finish up some details. 77 YZ250, and 79 YZ125 also need time and attention. I also have a street RZ350, and one for the track. I'm thinking I can say I'm a "2 stroke enthusiast" ... just don't tell anyone about my Cannondale/ATK addiction...

Do you keep your bikes in a garage or a warehouse? You seem to have a fair old selection.

Can't blame you though I'd happily do the same if I had the money.

[Stusmoke]

I'm using a 2000 EC200, and RM250 for woods riding duties, and will soon have a 99 EC300 on the track. Still trying to find the time for the 82 Maico 490...I replaced the rear shock with an Ohlins, and just need to finish up some details. 77 YZ250, and 79 YZ125 also need time and attention. I also have a street RZ350, and one for the track. I'm thinking I can say I'm a "2 stroke enthusiast" ... just don't tell anyone about my Cannondale/ATK addiction...

Do you keep your bikes in a garage or a warehouse? You seem to have a fair old selection.

Can't blame you though I'd happily do the same if I had the money.

Definitely what he said. The old machines are something special, I envy you

[Mofo]

I ride a 2011 YZ 250 & 2012 KTM 150.

My Wife rides a 2008 YZ 85 & my old 2011 YZ 125.

[Stusmoke]

I ride a 2011 YZ 250 & 2012 KTM 150.

My Wife rides a 2008 YZ 85 & my old 2011 YZ 125.

Would you buy bikes that awesome for me if I married you?