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Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« on: December 24, 2009, 08:13:23 PM »


Would a TZ250 engine be legal in a YZ250 frame? Would you ride it?
It would be cool if someone stuffed one in a YZ250 though.
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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2009, 01:30:52 AM »
I think it would be officially kick-ass!  I've always liked the idea of making two-strokes go multicylinder.  My dream is to one-day see a high performance car being powered by a 2T V8.  Preferably with a Dodge logo on the hood. :P


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 09:51:42 AM »
Here ya go, a 2 stroke V8 in a sand car.
2 Stroke V8 in a Sand Car   hope link works.

It's a Evinrude 3.6L V8.

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2009, 11:04:22 AM »
Or click the link for pics of the Yamaha RD05 road racer. It's a V4 250cc engine with rotary induction.

http://www.classicyams.com/race-bikes/early-factory-racers/yamaha-rd05/a-250-cc.html

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2009, 07:51:54 PM »
I've seen that Sand-car many a time.  I'm still looking forward to a major auto manufacturer putting forward a serious car with a 2T under the hood.


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2009, 08:53:19 PM »
Maybe an AMERICAN car company will get it's head out of it's arse and build a two-stroke car. But first they have to get through emissions testing. 

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2009, 09:39:46 PM »
Well, the snowmobile and outboard people are showing that it can indeed be done.  I'm just waiting for someone to apply that technology to the car world, just as that sand-car was using an Evinrude motor.


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2009, 11:32:12 PM »
Yes and if I had the money I would start building cars, trucks, motorcycles,and powersports. Then my final goal would be to just beat Honda at there own game using two strokes. But only if I had money.

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2009, 06:53:38 AM »
I remember seeing European 2 cylinder 250cc 2 stroke works bikes at the Unadilla USGP in the early '80's, but I don't remember what brand they were, maybe Aprilia or Puch.  They were in-line 2 cylinders, not v-twins, obviously hand-built, and sounded unbelievable on the track!  I would have loved to have ridden one....

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2009, 12:26:53 PM »
I would say someone should bring the multi cylinders back!! Maybe a 125 twin from an old Yamaha in a dirt bike frame. Hell they had a TZ750 stuffed in a dirt tracker frame and raced by Kenny Roberts, so anything is possible.
But can anyone be able to ride one, most likely not. These engines produce a lot of power at the top and little at the bottom.

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2009, 03:21:28 AM »
JETZcorp here is your two stroke mopar:
http://www.allpar.com/neon/stroke.html
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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 01:00:41 PM »


Would a TZ250 engine be legal in a YZ250 frame? Would you ride it?
It would be cool if someone stuffed one in a YZ250 though.



Somebody in Germany is racing this 250 twin ADLER with very good results,but he admits that it took him a long time to get used to the uprupt powerband.


3xSACHS MC-GS 250 1977
1xHercules GS 250  1976
1xHercules GS 350  1976
1xCan-Am 175 TNT 1975
1xZuendapp GS 125 19072-73
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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 02:18:48 PM »
Here's one Honda raced in the early '80s, O'mara I beleive.
Work of art that front end.
http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/honda_rc125m.jpg

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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 02:29:00 PM »
Here's one Honda raced in the early '80s, O'mara I beleive.
Work of art that front end.
http://www.bikeexif.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/honda_rc125m.jpg

I think it was Roger de Coster.It was a interesting project by Honda just like the OVAL piston.But it never came trough.


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Re: Would this be legal? twin cylinder 250
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2010, 07:52:09 PM »
Well, the snowmobile and outboard people are showing that it can indeed be done.  I'm just waiting for someone to apply that technology to the car world, just as that sand-car was using an Evinrude motor.

My feeling is that the direct-injected 2 stroke would show up on a super-car before a mass produced economy car, for several reasons. First I can't imagine the general public ever buying into adding oil every month or so, but a quirky super-car has all kinds of inconveniences that its owner must deal with. The expansion chambers present a challenge that would probably best be solved with a rear engine design. And lastly, the high performance and light weight that a multi cylinder big-bore 2 stroke could offer is perfect to compete with Ferrari's, Porsches and Lambo's