$5,999 New '10 YZ450F Haha

[RM250 Evan]

http://www.cycletrader.com/find/listing/2010-Yamaha-Yz450f-96934223

A one year old new bike lost $2000! Four strokes killed the MX economy... My brother is going to be happy cause thats he's dream bike.

[JETZcorp]

Incredible.  This means that a Yamaha actually depreciates faster than an Alfa Romeo. 

[opfermanmotors]

Or you could say it expires faster than milk.

[ford832]

Lol,that would be a good description of me

[eprovenzano]

Or you could say it expires faster than milk.

How about spoils like old milk....

[msambuco]

I wonder how many dealers have a 2010 YZ250 leftover. 

[bearorso]

We may laugh at this, but it's a problem for us 2t fans wanting new, modern 2ts. Whilst the factories have all these unsold bikes, they sure as hell aren't going to bring out even slightly updated 2ts (re the Dutch(?) dealers bike with 4t plastic, or the South African ones).

And blokes will not buy a 250 2t YZ that's more expensive than the latest model 450 (having said that, most dealers wouldn't even have one in store). It doesn't help when you also see 250 4ts, with all their regular updates, being only $100 more than the msrp on 2011 YZ250 2ts, which has been essentially the same bike since the change to the alloy frame. Either Yamaha are making bugger all on the 250fs, or we 2t owners are being gouged. The YZ 250 must cost bugger all to produce, compared to the regularly updated / redeveloped 4ts........

I think I recall that Yamaha weren't going to re-up the YZs homologation for use in AMA Pro racing - is that true?

[factoryX]

hey dude, I have a price list of the Yamaha bikes and the yz250 is cheaper than the yz250f.
prices:
2010 yz450f $8,250

2010 yz250f $7,150-$7,250

2010 yz250  $7,150

2010 yz125 $6,250

2010 yz85   $3,850

It also seems to me prices are dropping? A couple years ago 450's where pushing $10k where they not?
 
And I agree with the fact that why would they even produce modern two strokes when they have all this  4stroke stock still to sell. This could have been avoided early on when people where predicting this fall out. I really wish we would push for EFI two strokes, it would change the motor industry as we know it. A 4 liter efi v8 2 stroke producing 500-600hp with no turbo or super charger, with the weight of 200-300lbs, and decent gas mileage?

[JETZcorp]

I disagree that low four-stroke resale values are bad for us.  I think it's an excellent sign.  Saying that they're not going to make two-strokes when they have a bunch of left-over four-strokes going unsold, makes the assumption that the top executives in the company care more about four-stroke technology than they do about maintaining their swimming pool full of $100 bills.  The market is demonstrating that two-strokes will sell and generate revenue, while four-strokes will not.  That means that to follow the money, they should start transitioning their production to make more two-strokes and fewer four-strokes.  If I were them, I would consider the warehoused four-strokes to be practically a lost-cause in terms of generating revenue.  The demand for the bikes is going down, and that means they simply won't be able to charge what they used to charge, and the bikes won't be able to make money.  They built them, it was a mistake, now it's time to make what the people are lining up at the door to pay for.

[factoryX]

after a point jetz it will help two strokes out, but right now the big four have millions of dollars of stock they are trying to dump. This is a great time for European companies to get back in the picture and dominate. And if their bikes are cheaper they will take over.

[SwapperMX]

I disagree that low four-stroke resale values are bad for us.  I think it's an excellent sign.  Saying that they're not going to make two-strokes when they have a bunch of left-over four-strokes going unsold, makes the assumption that the top executives in the company care more about four-stroke technology than they do about maintaining their swimming pool full of $100 bills.  The market is demonstrating that two-strokes will sell and generate revenue, while four-strokes will not.  That means that to follow the money, they should start transitioning their production to make more two-strokes and fewer four-strokes.  If I were them, I would consider the warehoused four-strokes to be practically a lost-cause in terms of generating revenue.  The demand for the bikes is going down, and that means they simply won't be able to charge what they used to charge, and the bikes won't be able to make money.  They built them, it was a mistake, now it's time to make what the people are lining up at the door to pay for.

I have actually been swimming in that pool that you mention. Good times they were. 

Dont know if is kept as full these days !!

[ACMX]

They could just blame the economy and use that as an excuse to continue pushing four strokes :/

[factoryX]

and they can continue being broke. 

[miedosoracing]

Seriously, can any of you imagine how many YZ250's would sell at $5,000k.  I'm guess a crap load.  I actually hope that this whole 4 stroke revolution actually brought some deflation back into the mix. Bring back well priced bikes 2 or 4 strokes, and being comparable, let's see how many sell.  Maybe our sport would start making a comeback to it's old days of everyone one working the summer to buy one.  Also, bring down the noise and stop letting pipe makers make louder one's. Maybe we can have more tracks again.
YZ125 $4,500
YZ250   $4,900
YZ250F   $5,300
YZ450F   $5,900

[SwapperMX]

While this would be ideal, and I am all for it Meidoso, it wont happen. I am sure cost to build all those machines would be well over that. The "big 4" are already struggling as it is. It will be interesting to see what happens though in the very near future.