This debate is not going the way it should. I know I don't have any moderating power to enforce what I say, but if you're going to get in an argument with someone, do it right, people!
Calling people names, criticizing their spelling, making silly analogies with womens' clothing - it's the kind of bullshit that four-year-olds do when they disagree. We aren't in pre-school anymore, it's time to man up, take a look at the real issue at hand (is the criticism of Honda justified) and put out honest points and counterpoints.
Now the way I see it, Honda has played an active role in creating rules changes, both in MX/SX and in MotoGP, they deserve to take some heat for that. Honda has removed all two-strokes from their line up, and they deserve to take heat for that. Honda managed to develop a two-stroke for the ages which would absolutely raze the competition, but quietly let it fall into obscurity. They deserve to be criticized for these things, even as they deserve praise for others. Primarily, Honda has historically made some really kick-ass two-strokes. The original Elsinores hit the industry like a bomb, and the CR line continued to stay in the limelight and gather a loyal fanbase for decades. If that's not praiseworthy, nothing is. At the same time, the other manufacturers are not innocent by any means. Each and every one of the Big Five have varying levels of blood on their hands. There was a time, admittedly, when Yamaha had the bloodiest hands of all, but at least they're showing an interest in washing some of it off by keeping the YZ's at least in existence. This may seem small, but when you think of people riding two-strokes today, most of the time it's on a YZ. Honda is the only one of the group to not only keep the blood on their hands, but to raise said bloody hands to the heavens and proclaim the virtues of their... uh... red hands.
It comes down to what I said before. Nobody is the root of all evil, but that doesn't mean that they're not the root of some. All of the Big Five (as well as a few other parties which we all know about) have their own stake in the blame for what has happened. However, it is my opinion that of all of them, Honda have the most to answer for. If it wasn't for the EXP fiasco, things would be different.
maybe i will start some threads on how much Yamaha or Maico sucks and how bad there "business"is bad for the sport
With Yamaha, you've got fair points. Like I said above, they have a whole HELL of a lot of blood on their hands. But, I would honestly love to see what kind of dirt you've got on Maico. If it's bad enough, maybe you can get me to boycott them, too. I'm serious about that.