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Offline burn1986

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Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« on: July 23, 2010, 10:54:31 AM »
I need feedback on the idea of trying to get a 144cc race added to the 2-stroke World Championships for 2011. Do ya'll think there would be enough interest in it? Let me know what you think?
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2010, 12:01:29 PM »
Quote from: burn1986 on July 23, 2010, 10:54:31 AM
I need feedback on the idea of trying to get a 144cc race added to the 2-stroke World Championships for 2011. Do ya'll think there would be enough interest in it? Let me know what you think?

Can we say full gate? They established a 125cc championship in Europe and the series so far is a success.. Overcrowded of riders.. Thing about it..a bunch of 144 fully pinned in the first corner!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2010, 12:02:17 PM »
I think you should run 100cc.up to144cc. as one class. I was at Loretta's practicing on my 250 when a kid blew by me on a 80. I later learned it was Ricky Charmicheal.So a fast person will kick your ass regardless of the displacement.
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2010, 12:07:27 PM »
Gas Gas makes a 144cc?? WTH!!!

Gas Gas 144cc


Look at the smile on that face  ;D
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 01:43:06 PM »
My computer wouldn't pull up the pic. Is that a Gas Gas 144? I agree that it should be 100cc to 144cc.
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 01:45:11 PM »
Quote from: burn1986 on July 23, 2010, 01:43:06 PM
My computer wouldn't pull up the pic. Is that a Gas Gas 144? I agree that it should be 100cc to 144cc.

It's a youtube video of a GasGas144 riding. It threw some nice roost too!
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 01:54:38 PM »
What year is it? Are they making a 2010 or 2011 model? I'll have to pull it up when I get home from work.
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 02:01:27 PM »
I think having displacement spreads from 100cc to 150cc will result in a similar issue that we have today... unequal competition. In some cases the larger displacement would be better and in some the smaller would be better. All that stuff does is make it hard for the lower income racer to compete and win. Those with enough cash could own multiple machines that matched the track.

In the old days there were almost three classes that could fit that displacement range.

As for Gas Gas, yes they are around... and current.
http://www.gasgas.com/index.shtml

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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 02:10:37 PM »
Would it be possible to have a petition up on the website so the guests and members of the website can sign it? Also a print version so we can bring it to our local tracks?
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2010, 02:17:27 PM »
Quote from: 2smoker on July 23, 2010, 02:10:37 PM
Would it be possible to have a petition up on the website so the guests and members of the website can sign it? Also a print version so we can bring it to our local tracks?

I'll be glad to add that to the site.

Anyone feel like taking a stab at writing a draft of what it should say?
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #10 on: July 23, 2010, 02:23:06 PM »
Should we go for one race and then see the response? I am guessing that there will be an overwhelming response if we spread the word.

Maybe it could say something like:

PETITION FOR 144CC RACE INCLUSION IN THE 2011 MTA TWO STROKE WORLD CHAMPIOSHIPS

Name                                    email                                

What do yo think?
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 02:25:00 PM »
Quote from: burn1986 on July 23, 2010, 02:23:06 PM
Should we go for one race and then see the response? I am guessing that there will be an overwhelming response if we spread the word.

What is wrong with that? :P
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 02:27:36 PM »
We need to do it. Who should we submit it to?
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2010, 02:33:09 PM »
I thought that you were speaking of a petition to create a two-stroke class for the Nationals.

For a one off race like this you will not need to do a petition. Just get a bunch of folks to agree to racing it and you should be set.

What would really help is having "roving" reporters for any event that has two-stroke racing involved. It's a bit too difficult for me to attend every race, take photos and write something about it. Anyone interested in doing this? It only has to be something simple.
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Re: Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2010, 02:43:23 PM »
Oh, heck yeah! I definitely agree that it is needed for the nats. You know it was Jeff Ward that voted against the 144s being included in the 250F class. (Here's the link: http://www.dirtrider.net/forums3/text/topic/122780-1.html). His argument was that it was a band-aid fix for the problem, which he said that it should be 250cc regardless of engine. I wonder if the AMA would have gone for it if Wardy hadn't of voted against it?

At any rate, I can work on something to write up, uless 2smoker also has an idea.
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