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Transfer Port Injection
« on: March 16, 2017, 07:32:29 AM »
Uniflow -- you get royalty checks for your transfer port injection invention???

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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2017, 09:48:24 AM »
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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2017, 11:44:16 AM »
Uniflow -- you get royalty checks for your transfer port injection invention???

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Yeah right, I'll wait by the letter box.

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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2017, 02:27:43 PM »
While the money would be nice, it has to be a bit rewarding to have the design validated at that level.

--Ron.

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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2017, 01:19:11 PM »
Well yes, perhaps I wasn't completely full of shit after all.
I'm keen to finish the RV 360 EFI engine, but I'm on the lookout for a YZ250 (04 onward) gearbox as I pinched the one I had for the sleeve valve engine. I have leads on two units at the moment.
I'm finishing up the cylinders (some spares) now, cast at home, next week off for nikasil.

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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2017, 01:55:19 PM »
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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2017, 07:48:49 PM »
I was talking to a KTM dealer service manager today who seemed to know a bit about the new system.

I asked about how they are going to oil it. He said oil injection straight to the bearings, but I have to think they are going to need to do some kind of mister system for the small end bearing / piston / rings.

How did you deal with the oiling?

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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2017, 09:14:33 PM »
On the YZ we made a small solenoid operated valve that opened after 60% throttle, before the reed block. Ran a lean pre mix as well.
On my 360 I've got an oil pump (TS100 I think) feeding straight into the big end through the hollow crank shaft. Oil should leave/ fling off the big end and head for the cylinder and small end, mains sealed off.
On the DTPI Kawasaki, I just run pre mix as the injectors are in the crank case aiming at the transfer intakes. Seems enough oil is deposited to keep thing from going dry.
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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2017, 07:57:20 AM »
WOW...  holy chit...  I will be watching intently to see how they perform... 
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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 01:43:43 PM »
I am going to try to get KTM to let me ride one!

I'm not holding my breath mind you.


--Ron.

 
WOW...  holy chit...  I will be watching intently to see how they perform... 

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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2017, 09:22:54 AM »
I am going to try to get KTM to let me ride one!

I'm not holding my breath mind you.


--Ron.


That's awesome, good luck :) .
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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2017, 06:46:53 AM »
KTM will gladly let you ride one -- if you hand them a check for $11k
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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2017, 02:57:21 PM »
KTM will gladly let you ride one -- if you hand them a check for $11k


I was kind of hoping for a more economical introduction....

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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2017, 12:14:39 AM »
https://transmoto.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/KTM20182TLaunch_49.jpg

See the three cylinder developments, starting with the DI Orbital system. Finishing with our own TPI seen on TSM five years ago.
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Re: Transfer Port Injection
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2017, 10:30:37 PM »
DI is the "future" but dang is sure looks complicated.

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