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Offline MCGRIDDLE_321

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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2010, 07:31:14 PM »
you have to remember on ktms the number plates are the air box to. not just that lil black piece of plastic

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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2010, 01:41:31 AM »
The number plates are small indeed. In pictures you can see that the air box and the number plate is no longer a continuous piece of plastic, so there is really little room for numbers. Besides, the radiator protectors are really small. I could easily see someone hitting the radiator from behind with something and bending it. Of course, this is just minor stuff, as long as it drives well it's ok.  Here's a picture where you can see (barely :D ) the number plate and just how exposed the radiator is at the rear. Imagine if someone roosted you from the right angle and the stones hit the radiator :\


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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2010, 02:45:39 AM »
Who needs number plates when you have transponders  : :P ;D
Would be good if they are a little slimer through the mid section though.

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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2010, 03:39:34 AM »
As a spectator I would love to be able to see the numbers on the sides. As a rider however I can see the thinking behind this... Less plastic= less weight. Still I would like to see the radiator covered up more. And i noticed they still have the quarter turn gas cap. Hope it's not leaking any more :D.
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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2010, 08:30:54 AM »
Now words on a new injection system for the 2011? :( I like the new frame and bodywork. The cylinder shape add to the coolnest! What about Yamaha?
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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2010, 01:21:02 PM »
Too bad they did'nt put the link style shock on the 2strokes. Maybe next year after they get some time on it.
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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2010, 01:28:00 PM »
Quote from: CycleNews
Unbeatable is the power-to-weight ratio, lower cost of acquisition and maintenance, and simple to service and rebuild,which allows a piston change without having studied engineering.
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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2010, 05:22:38 PM »
Too bad they did'nt put the link style shock on the 2strokes. Maybe next year after they get some time on it.

They said that the two stroke perform better w/ the PDS than the linkage because of the manner the power is giving. Being that the 2011 two strokes did get a redesigned swing arm I believe they r telling the truth and not just lazy to put the linkage on them.

"Why PDS for the two-strokes?
    The directly linked PDS shock has turned out to be the best solution for the two-strokes. Two-Strokes have a totally different engine characteristic than four-strokes and also a different centre of gravity. Many tests have proven that the PDS rear suspension fits better to the lighter and more nervous characteristics of the two-strokes. With the lighter PDS system, the two-strokes will keep a major weight benefit, also in the future."
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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2010, 09:15:33 AM »
I knew they must have reason, thanks for sharing BAAARAAAP!!
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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2010, 09:42:36 AM »
The 2011 side plates are a hell of a lot bigger than the 2010s.  Ignore the black and look at the whole thing.

Thank goodness they seem to have realized how dreadful the previous side panels looked.

I like PDS, no link systems,it's what I want on a bike.

But not giving the 2t SXs the linkage rear end will keep more people off them than it keeps on them - there's just so much prejudice against no link systems amongst MXers, especially in the US. ::) Lack of linkage might just give more riders a reason to jump ship to  KTM 4ts, unfortunately.

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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2010, 04:37:17 PM »
Many tests have proven that the PDS rear suspension fits better to the lighter and more nervous characteristics of the two-strokes. With the lighter PDS system, the two-strokes will keep a major weight benefit, also in the future."


Pbbbbffffffttttt.Pure,unadulterated,shameless marketing B.S.It's cheaper to keep it that way than redesign a new bike around a linkage system.Personally,I love the PDS idea,but all three I've had were noticeably inferior to a decent linkage system.
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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2010, 04:41:35 PM »
The 2011 side plates are a hell of a lot bigger than the 2010s.  Ignore the black and look at the whole thing.



I don't know man,looking at the pic at the top of this page the plate,fender,airbox look like three separate pieces.Maybe you're supposed to put one number on each ;)
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2010, 07:57:43 PM »
Many tests have proven that the PDS rear suspension fits better to the lighter and more nervous characteristics of the two-strokes. With the lighter PDS system, the two-strokes will keep a major weight benefit, also in the future."


Pbbbbffffffttttt.Pure,unadulterated,shameless marketing B.S.It's cheaper to keep it that way than redesign a new bike around a linkage system.Personally,I love the PDS idea,but all three I've had were noticeably inferior to a decent linkage system.
exactly what i was thinking as i read the press release Ford. i have ridden on the PDS since '99 and it has gotten much better since it's inception but it has a certain feel to it that's kinda dead, if you will. i am so lazy anymore when it comes to working on bikes i love not having a grease a linkage so i embrace it. if i had a linkage bike i would have to drill and tap it for zerk fittings like they used to in the old days.

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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2010, 11:06:02 PM »

The older KTMs weren't bad, if you used the airbox there was plenty of room. I used the normal sized numbers on mine:




I got to agree that it was marketing BS for there explanation of not having put linkage on there 2ts. I got to say though I like not having to grease the linkage on my bike. It even says in the manual not to grease the shock pivot on the swingarm because it uses a teflon bearing, and grease would break it down.

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Re: New KTM 2 stroke unveiled!!!
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2010, 05:33:06 PM »
i was watching the 6 minute promo video with Stephen Everts and the new KTM 350 4 stroke at work today. as they showed Everts riding the bike you can hear a two stroke on the video. then you see it, a 250SX doing laps (i think Sleeter riding) with Everts. i thought it was kinda funny.