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Offline JETZcorp

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Re: I have an idea
« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2010, 05:05:22 PM »
Still, I don't see the appeal of having two kinds of bikes equally-matched by handicaps.  That's like entering a horse-drawn Charriot into an SCCA race and making the rules such that the charriot has a fighting chance at it.  That's a big exaggeration, obviously, but I just don't get why you would want to bend the rules just to save some inferior technology.  If something or someone is better, let them get the victory that they rightly deserve, rather than trying to hold them back for the sake of the losers.  This still sounds like Harrison Bergeron to me.


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

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Re: I have an idea
« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2010, 08:20:12 PM »
WTF ? ???
Jetz are you saying the 2 stroke is inferior ?
Come on man.
What do you call 125 v 250F ? Thats the rules now !
Thats called a f***ing handicap >:(
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Offline JETZcorp

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Re: I have an idea
« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2010, 11:16:09 PM »
I'm not saying the two-stroke is inferior.  I'm saying that the inferior engine should be allowed to die on a level playing field.  I don't know where you got the mysterious idea that I thought we should keep things the way they are, but the LAST THING we should be doing is adding three or four more layers of NEW handicaps to try and counter-act the old handicap.  It's a recipe for changing motocross into a sport where whomever can make the best case that their bike is the worst will get the most help and subsequently win in the next season.  I'm not saying that's absolutely going to happen, but what you're proposing does sound like a massive build-up of new regulations that stretch and wobble about every year.  We need this sport to be accessible, without the dictionary-sized rule-book to scare people away.


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

Offline scotty dog

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Re: I have an idea
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2010, 08:22:43 AM »
I agree with the Keep It Simple Stupid idea of fewer rules is better.

I would love to see that simplified to it's most basic level: Run what ya brung. Have a maximum displacement limit, require all bikes to be production models, and require that all performace parts and modifications be limited to items and services available for sale to the general public. No "works" production bikes from the factories, no unobtanium suspension or engine parts.

If you think you can win on your XYZ 200 two-stroke against somebody on their ABC 425 four-stroke, then by all means enetr the race with it and give it your best shot.

In such a scenario, manufacturers would have a real incentive to innovate and be creative to build what they believed to be the best overall package.
I agree with Chokey. Keep the max displacement limit and leave it up to us to "run what we brung". Thats the way it should be.
F**K THE WHALES......................SAVE THE 2 STROKE!!!!

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