Coming Soon
Home > Forum


Author Topic: Robby Marshal's Lap Times  (Read 11780 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline VintageBlueSmoke

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 157
    • View Profile
So I feel I MUST step in here.

The Flagger: The flagger on the jump is waiving the yellow. Pretty vigorously I might add. He is definately not just standing there picking his ass. That means (for all you non-racers out there) THAT YOU DO NOT JUMP THE OBSTICLE. It is in the rules and grounds for disqualification/elimination from the event. I don't care what everyone else is doing. The AMA, event promotors, and riders are all at fault and should step up and correct the problem by ENFORCING THE RULES!!!.

This is getting ridiculous. When we talked about the kids race at the Moster Energy Cup, we had the same thing. A BLATENT DISREGUARD FOR THE SAFETY OF THE RIDERS.

Now I couldn't see in the video if the turn before the jump was a yellow or not and that should have been the case but regardless, when a flagger has a waving yellow at a jump, the rule isn't jump at your own peril, the rule is DO NOT JUMP THE Mo$&er F&@^ing OBSTICLE!

Robby, dude. Get well soon. You are our hero and we all hope the best for you.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »
08 Speed Bird Quad 110, 08 KTM 144, 04 Suzuki LT-Z400, 03 Gas Gas EC, 300,97 Honda CR144, 96 Husky Boy 50, 88 Husky 400WR, 86 Honda CR125R, 80 Can-Am MX6 400, 75 Husky 360CR, 75 Husky 175CC, 73 Penton Jackpiner 175, 72 Husky 250CR, 72 Husky 125, 72 Rickman-Zundapp 125, (2) 71 Bultaco Pursang Mk

Offline Stusmoke

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal's Lap Times
« Reply #16 on: June 03, 2013, 01:42:59 AM »
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline Charles Owens

  • Professional
  • *****
  • Posts: 756
    • View Profile
    • Two Stroke Motocross
Robby Marshal''s Lap Times
« Reply #17 on: June 03, 2013, 01:43:34 AM »
The jetting issue was more of a fuel issue, which we got resolved shortly before the 2nd practcie session.
The Smart carb was not run at Muddy Creek, we have done a little testing with it, more coming soon.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline lauterbacher

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''''s Lap Times
« Reply #18 on: June 03, 2013, 03:09:25 AM »
Charles how about some side notes as to the positive and negative remarks you recieved in the pits with the so called professionals.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline Lsroutlaw

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''''''''s Lap Times
« Reply #19 on: June 03, 2013, 04:45:26 AM »
Charles how about some side notes as to the positive and negative remarks you recieved in the pits with the so called professionals.
+1 also be cool to know who the new riders are?
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline ktm150rippa

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 235
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''''''''''''''''s Lap Times
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2013, 05:30:39 AM »
Charles how about some side notes as to the positive and negative remarks you recieved in the pits with the so called professionals.
+1 also be cool to know who the new riders are?

I know of 2 not sure about the third. I'll let Charles do the announcing though since it is his team and all.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline Larry63r

  • Novice
  • *
  • Posts: 24
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Lap Times
« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2013, 08:52:18 AM »
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline Stusmoke

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline VintageBlueSmoke

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 157
    • View Profile
It is hard to argue with Larry63r's post.

Having flagged pro events (Daytona, St. Louis, and others) that was not the case 'in my day'. Yellow was always "wheels down" and no passing. Flaggers and flag stations rarely have more than a blue and yellow flag (and more often than not - no blue!).

I was one of those guys that would jump out on the track to protect the rider and ponited and waved like crazy. I was landed on in St. Louis during one of the LCQ's. Although I do it, I don't expect others to be so stupid and I expect there are insurance liabilities for the track owners/promoters as well. The flagger was on or next to the jump, in plain sight of the on coming riders waving the yellow flag. Although he ain't a "super flagger", he was doing his job.

Coop said,
Quote
Riders at the pro level are extremely focused, a flagger needs to do something to get their attention.
but my response to that is that BECAUSE they are at the pro level, they see EVERYTHING in view. It is that kind of focus that allows them to go so fast, see lines developing, and reacting to changing situations. Look at Bubba withthe photographer last year (or me with the photgrapher this year - I empathise with Bubba for that one). They saw that flagger and decided "I'll keep it pinned and make up a few seconds on anyone who lets off" or " If I let off and be safe, I'll get passed and the organizers will not defend me and give me my position back".

I commend Robby for "trying" to do the right thing and hope for a speedy recovery - but this is a PERFECT opportunity to drill home some basic riding skills anda safety - and the idiots in the booth missed it completely!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »
08 Speed Bird Quad 110, 08 KTM 144, 04 Suzuki LT-Z400, 03 Gas Gas EC, 300,97 Honda CR144, 96 Husky Boy 50, 88 Husky 400WR, 86 Honda CR125R, 80 Can-Am MX6 400, 75 Husky 360CR, 75 Husky 175CC, 73 Penton Jackpiner 175, 72 Husky 250CR, 72 Husky 125, 72 Rickman-Zundapp 125, (2) 71 Bultaco Pursang Mk

Offline Charles Owens

  • Professional
  • *****
  • Posts: 756
    • View Profile
    • Two Stroke Motocross
Robby Marshal's Lap Times
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2013, 05:40:43 PM »
Well pulp is not taking a shot at Robbie but at TSM, They see and know how popular the website has become which means they believe they are losing advertising dollars and revenue and any clout they think they have.I hope TSM buries them.

You're right, they just want some of the traffic coming their way. We'll just keep going and show then it's not a fluke or cheating. We have some great low double digit riders asking to ride. We're making the call for the 3rd rider soon. But I promise you, we'll have at least a top 10-15 this year. :)
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline KDXGarage

  • Novice
  • *
  • Posts: 13
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''s Lap Times
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2013, 07:14:06 PM »


« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline citabjockey

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 145
    • View Profile
    • Yamaha Vintage Enduros
Robby Marshal''''s Lap Times
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2013, 07:32:49 PM »
Can one of the mods please rename this thread? My original post was based on session 1 practice (with bad jetting and getting to know the track). Ever since session 2 I have regretted the title and it really pokes me in the eye now knowing how fantastic Robby was doing on the SX up until he hit the bear trap left by Canard in moto 1.

Thanks!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »
Yamaha CT3, RT3, MX125, SC500, Toy Prius, Diesel F250 (it all balances out)

Offline Coop

  • Global Moderator
  • Professional
  • *****
  • Posts: 2183
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''''''''s Lap Times
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2013, 08:23:16 PM »
I tried it only changed your first post. Maybe Charles or one of the others guys knows how to change them all.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »
- Mike - Don't take life so seriously, nobody gets out alive.

Offline Stusmoke

  • Posts: 0
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''''''''''''''''s Lap Times
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2013, 12:27:24 AM »




Keeping it pinned, way to go marshall.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »

Offline ford832

  • Professional
  • *****
  • Posts: 1532
  • I PITY THE FOOL THAT RIDES A FOURSTROKE
    • View Profile
Robby Marshal''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s Lap Times
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2013, 01:09:13 AM »
We have some great low double digit riders asking to ride.

Which just goes to show what a great job you guys have done in a short period of time.Good stuff Charles and crew. 8)

It also makes you wonder how many riders are now looking at a 250 2t as a viable option due in large part to the TSM effort.
The next couple months should be very interesting.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM by ' »
I'd rather a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy.