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Offline evo550

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« Reply #105 on: March 25, 2013, 11:24:18 AM »
back off the fat people you twiggies.
Yeah!!!!
He might be fat, but you guys are ugly...and he can diet, but you can't fix ugly :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">
And when you try to fix ugly .....................


.......Uuuummmm, I got nuthin'
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« Reply #106 on: March 25, 2013, 12:05:46 PM »
funny as the nose looks stock standard untouched  :o
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« Reply #107 on: March 25, 2013, 08:52:20 PM »
ha! i love... her/him?
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« Reply #108 on: March 25, 2013, 09:58:59 PM »
Maybe she's allergic to bee's and got stung in the face way to many times? or he's a cross dresser  :-
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« Reply #109 on: March 25, 2013, 10:20:27 PM »
Maybe she's allergic to bee's and got stung in the face way to many times? or he's a cross dresser  :-
HA!
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« Reply #110 on: March 25, 2013, 10:43:37 PM »
back off the fat people you twiggies.
Yeah!!!!
He might be fat, but you guys are ugly...and he can diet, but you can't fix ugly :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">
hahahaa yes! :D :D :D :D
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« Reply #111 on: March 25, 2013, 10:53:23 PM »




 Can you read this? Getting a little off track here, but this is the original sales brochure 1973 F9 bighorn, when they knew how to bull****,       I mean advertise!!

I can read it but 28 HP? How far engine tech has come in the last 40 odd years is BS. Same with computers. Except I've already preordered my preorder of a quantum computer...
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« Reply #112 on: March 25, 2013, 11:41:08 PM »
I see on the original brochure that the F9 weighs 127 Kg.
Also says you can buy a factory "hot kit", 44 HP.
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« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2013, 10:06:40 AM »
I see on the original brochure that the F9 weighs 127 Kg.
Also says you can buy a factory "hot kit", 44 HP.

yeah the hot kit had the shorter ratio gearbox, a different piston (lighter and single ring, very rare these days) and Im sure a few other tricks like pipe and carb etc.
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« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2013, 06:48:25 PM »
The Arctic Cat functions as a DFI engine at low speeds, correct? I wonder how the Orbital patents are affecting all of this?

The old aircooled open class mx's ran a lot of piston clearance and you could hear the piston knock until things warmed up. I've got an old Yamaha 400 in the shop right now and it's pretty noisy when it first fires up. I'm pretty sure piston metallurgy has improved quite a bit since those old SC500's.

It's "DFI", all the time. Though it does more than just put fuel into the combustion chamber - it's all written there.

It's a "different animal" entirely from Orbitals system.. A low pressure ( see 58PSI) system that is injected at multiple points in the rotation of the crankshaft / piston positions.

And the oil injection - oh yeh!. Into the cases, and also into the fuel rail / injectors, through to the little end, and all metered and timed. The 'right' oil ratio, at the 'right time'. Hopefully. :D

As I've written all along - there are so many alternative paths to 'DFI' 2ts. Orbital's, really found their "home" in 4ts - they are paid royalties / have licensing agreements with a vast array vehicle manufacturers.

Orbital's is  a complicated system, that requires very high pressures. And, does not take advantage of / stay true to the "simplicity of 2 Strokes". Well suited for a 4t Car / Truck engine though.........

Get something like a Quaife Gearbox, and run a primary chain / belt, or gears, and you've a gearbox. I bet my arse that you'll see blokes doing this. It will probably be a Pom. They're crazier than Aussies, or even those Demented Kiwis. And, they still have Very Easy MOT ( rego) stds. At least whilst they can fight off the European Parliament and their legislative minions.

It's the sort of thing I expect to see in Performance Bikes magazine. They regularly feature very trick 2 strokes.

As for the piston - lets see - SC500s - round about 1974, or thereabouts. I think piston / engine tech and materials have moved on just a bit, in all the subsequent decades. I used to watch Brian Clarkson Road Race his SC500, when I was a teenager - I haunted him in his tiny   shop with the Rickman distributorship in Penrith in the 70s,  then worked about 50 metres from his wreckers in the  late 90s. A Gentleman and Right Royal Ratbag. 8)
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« Reply #115 on: April 14, 2013, 03:47:35 AM »



Just an update. The bike is back at Blackwood Yamaha ( today ) getting all the bits put back on. By rights it's ready to start! This time I'm running the ignition through the Link computer. This will take a little sorting out ( programing the timing ). Using a 450F flywheel and stator. See the drum throttle valve we cast earlier in this thread.
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« Reply #116 on: April 14, 2013, 08:00:28 AM »
Nice . ;D
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« Reply #117 on: April 14, 2013, 09:03:21 AM »
Have you ever thought about an additional injector in the air box just to cool the big end a bit? Think this set up will be far,more useful that injecting behind the reed.
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« Reply #118 on: April 14, 2013, 11:08:13 AM »
nice work mate, should go well!

Quick question, where is the oil injected? with the fuel or in the reed boot?

I only ask because I wonder what will happed to the reeds if the dont have an oil cushion?
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« Reply #119 on: April 14, 2013, 03:04:42 PM »
Thats`s nice.. Hope to see a running video of it soon
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