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Offline mxracer239

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« on: December 28, 2012, 08:54:18 PM »
Went in the local yamaha shop to see what they had today, all two strokes (yz85,125,250) i asked where were the 4strokes an they said they cant sell them so wldnt be carrying those any more
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 10:22:10 PM »
That's awesome  ;D My dealer started carrying 85's and 125's in addition to 250's that they already carried. They still sell thumpers but hey its a start.
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 10:35:53 PM »
Yeah they told me they had to send some 11's back an all the 12's they had
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 10:37:08 PM »
Wow that must have been a big chunk of change lost to have them shipped back...
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 10:48:43 PM »
lol im sure it was, there's alot of ppl around here going back to 2strokes

cant afford to race an mantain the 4strokes
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 11:16:12 PM »
I feel sorry for the dealer that mustve been cruel especially around Christmas time. But the news is awesome. My local dealers are pretty much total fools, they don't carry 2 strokes full stop. Except for second hand ones that get traded in, which they sell usually inside a week or two. Go figure.
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« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2012, 02:47:54 AM »
looks like tide is turning...

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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2012, 02:55:06 AM »
I would think the dealer should be grateful he carries a line that offers two strokes.  Think of the dealers in the area that sell the other colors that are 4 stroke only.
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« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2012, 03:39:53 AM »
I wonder how many more dealers will be switching to yamaha and KTM now. Maybe even husky and TM
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« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2012, 05:35:21 AM »
My local dealer has all three YZ two strokes on the floor as well.
Last weekend the sales manager invited me to ride with the crew in the local desert, 7 bikes showed up, 5 were 2 strokes. We did about 90 miles of mixed single track, sand washes and fire roads. After we were sitting around having a beer and one of the four stroke guys was talking about getting a 125.
The tide is turning my friends...
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2012, 06:42:58 AM »
That is incredible. I wonder also if it has anything ti do with the yz250f still being carbed and being seen as a lesser bike than the other brands and the bad rap the backwards engine yz450f has gotten lately. If I were to buy a four stroke at the moment it would not be a Yamaha as the other brands seem to be a better buy anyway. I see a lot more ktm and Kawasaki's at the track now than ever before, it used to be majority Yamaha but seems they are losing market share. They are just lucky they have a two stroke range to fall back on
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2012, 07:24:32 AM »
Quote from: chump6784 on December 29, 2012, 02:42:58 PM
That is incredible. I wonder also if it has anything ti do with the yz250f still being carbed and being seen as a lesser bike than the other brands and the bad rap the backwards engine yz450f has gotten lately. If I were to buy a four stroke at the moment it would not be a Yamaha as the other brands seem to be a better buy anyway. I see a lot more ktm and Kawasaki's at the track now than ever before, it used to be majority Yamaha but seems they are losing market share. They are just lucky they have a two stroke range to fall back on

the yam is not a lesser bike by any means. still is a strong reliable engine that can run with any of the other brands. the 450 only has a bad rap because james didnt like it (which i dont care at all if he did or not) its a good bike, just not for james. if i had my choice of a brand new 250f it would be yamaha

i bet more than anything its the lack of doing anythign with their current product line. they haven't changed their 85 since like 03
their 125 since 06
250 2t since 06
250f since 2010
450 since 2010

lack of change is what kills business. but i'm guessing that yamaha is about to do soemthign big, whether it be 4 stroke, 2 stroke, whatever. In the next couple years yamaha will do something groundbreaking again like they did with the yz400. That's the only explanation for their staleness over the last few years
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2012, 07:32:06 AM »
Quote from: twosmoke595 on December 29, 2012, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: chump6784 on December 29, 2012, 02:42:58 PM
That is incredible. I wonder also if it has anything ti do with the yz250f still being carbed and being seen as a lesser bike than the other brands and the bad rap the backwards engine yz450f has gotten lately. If I were to buy a four stroke at the moment it would not be a Yamaha as the other brands seem to be a better buy anyway. I see a lot more ktm and Kawasaki's at the track now than ever before, it used to be majority Yamaha but seems they are losing market share. They are just lucky they have a two stroke range to fall back on

the yam is not a lesser bike by any means. still is a strong reliable engine that can run with any of the other brands. the 450 only has a bad rap because james didnt like it (which i dont care at all if he did or not) its a good bike, just not for james. if i had my choice of a brand new 250f it would be yamaha

i bet more than anything its the lack of doing anythign with their current product line. they haven't changed their 85 since like 03
their 125 since 06
250 2t since 06
250f since 2010
450 since 2010

lack of change is what kills business. but i'm guessing that yamaha is about to do soemthign big, whether it be 4 stroke, 2 stroke, whatever. In the next couple years yamaha will do something groundbreaking again like they did with the yz400. That's the only explanation for their staleness over the last few years

Apart from the bit about a YZ250F being my go to choice for a 250F, I agree completely.

Although the YZ250F is crying out for a new engine. Since its introduction its only received revisions and not a completely new engine as far as I know. It might be a reliable motor, but its excessively expensive to rebuild. I was told about 4 grand for a bottom end only. In Australia  :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

Yamaha is definitely about to do something huge with their YZFs. They've been banking their cash for 3 year models now, biding their time for a total overhaul I would reckon. 2013 model was BNG I think.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2012, 07:44:21 AM »
The Yamaha has the lowest power output of any 250f from the big 5 and that is a big deal on a small bore. The buying public are generally pretty dim and if the buying public see James Stewart having trouble on a bike it will turn them off. I rode a backwards engine yzf and hated it but I also didn't like the forward engine yzf either
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2012, 01:00:42 PM »
Quote from: chump6784 on December 29, 2012, 03:44:21 PM
The Yamaha has the lowest power output of any 250f from the big 5 and that is a big deal on a small bore. The buying public are generally pretty dim and if the buying public see James Stewart having trouble on a bike it will turn them off. I rode a backwards engine yzf and hated it but I also didn't like the forward engine yzf either

I think even the Yamaha beats the husky TC250r though. Which is just plain sad.
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