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Offline Jeram

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lets just wait and see how this pans out shall we fellas...

we've got people defending a product based on advertisements and here-say and others calling bullshit.

We we find out soon enough via a direct dyno comparison and if nobody ever does a direct dyno comparison we will know why.
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What part of self compensating don't you get?  :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

I get it. Doesn't mean I have to believe it.


The reason you aren't getting to us is because the way you are trying to. You say it is no better than a Lectron then provide the reasons why it IS better.

? I have never mentioned Lectron.

So, lets wait and see what people say about it after they use it. And hopefully mags like MXA test it too.

Chill dude. I think you will find I said the same thing.
Just didn't put a cherry on top. ;D
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2012, 12:26:24 AM »
Take your carburettor and find a large deep body of water. Throw said carburettor into that body of water! Fit EFI and don't piss around!
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Offline riffraff

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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2012, 05:47:32 AM »
Take your carburettor and find a large deep body of water. Throw said carburettor into that body of water! Fit EFI and don't piss around!

Easy for you to say with your rotary valve intake   :P
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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2012, 11:23:17 AM »

Both 4 stroke and 2 stroke, 450 took first in class, the modded banshee took 2nd.

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I ride an 03 yz250, wait 04, wait 05, what ever, they're all the same #$@% YOU!

Offline ford832

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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2012, 06:26:21 PM »
Bizarre :o Exactly what are those four wheeled conveyances? :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">
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Offline 2STROKEREVOLUTION

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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2012, 01:17:36 AM »
Take your carburettor and find a large deep body of water. Throw said carburettor into that body of water! Fit EFI and don't piss around!

Unless it is DI, no way. If the SmartCarb can match EFI performance for a fraction of the cost and without all the electronics then to hell with EFI, don't piss around with it.
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Yes, cost, that knotty one. Forget cost for a moment, transfer port injection ( carefully timed and aimed ) will almost perform as well as DI at a fraction of the cost and complexity of DI. I'm only pulling your leg, all my bikes accept one has a carburettor but The EFI one is the most exciting and I think the way of the future. It offers a degree of engine control flexiblity that a carb never will.
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"IF" seems to be what most of this is based off of... When someone sets up a dyno run comparing them both side by side then a valid argument can be set up.
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I hope this carb work's and anyone who get's it post about it, especially any 2007 honda cr125 rider's.  My bike could really use some improvement in the carburator area.
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« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2012, 06:17:08 PM »
Cripes,it even looks like a Lectron.

He did say on KTMTalk,

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Red Edmonston invented the Lake Injector, 1968, the Pos A Fuel, 1971, the Lectron, 1973, the EI Blue Magnum, 1977, the Edelbrock Quiksilver in the 80's, the AFT in the 90's and the SmartCarb (our name) in 2001.

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Yes, Red Edmonston was my friend and I worked with him the last five years of his life. The SmartCarb is the culmination of his life's work and he was working through the last few hard details when he died. The issues he had with Mike were not pretty and there were a lot of hard feelings over the AFT carburetor (after the Quiksilver) that he and Mike had partnered with. He said he always held back the best and I knew the potential this carburetor had, so I partnered with some people and we bought the technology. Red felt very paranoid about this carburetor and expressed to me how much technology had been stolen from him over the years (most recently PSI) so any detailed information from him was pretty vague. He ultimately died of brain cancer and shortly before he died he hid all his technical writings and drawings which we were never able to receive, so if you can imagine trying to learn 45 years worth of experience with these type of fuel systems was difficult to say the least. Past that, correcting the remaining issues.

What we have now though is absolutely the finest mechanical fuel delivery device ever made and we are just scratching the surface of it's atomization potential.

Best Regards,

Corey

So, yes, it looks and functions similar to a Lectron because it IS the same DNA. Just advanced 30 years.
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« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2012, 06:20:11 PM »
The problem with only a dyno dyno is it only shows what happens at full throttle. Part throttle is different. Only a bum dyno can give a full report of how it works.
Yes, there is the thinner wallet issue. That is why it is necessary to test it back to back with stock. Bum dyno back to back to really know how it works.
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« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2012, 06:24:52 PM »
can you post a pic of this bum dyno you talk about ?
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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2012, 08:23:14 PM »
can you post a pic of this bum dyno you talk about ?

Eeeeeeuuuuwwwwww :o If you like those kind of pics racerx,you're really on the wrong site. :-X :P

I used to lust after a ported and blueprinted RZ with Toomey's and Lectrons.I still do actually...... :(

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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2012, 08:51:28 PM »
just see'n what types of photos pop up,  you know something like this

don't know what you were thinking.
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