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Offline JETZcorp

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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2010, 06:01:07 PM »
Well seriously, it wouldn't really take any time for John or whoever's getting involved with the Maico test to shoot Ricky (or anyone else with a big name and an expired contract) to give it a go.  Who knows, some of them might have heard big stories from their dads about the ye olde German machines and want to see what the fuss is about.  If we actually managed to get a big name on our test, we might get the attention of some magazines.

Maico won't save the 2 stroke. The rules will. The new Maicos look way too outdated. I will put my money on 6 new KTM 250sx DFI instead of one Maico which makes a difference for the sport. It is an old YZ with a Maico Sticker on it. WOW. WOW. Brand loyal people are just funny. You guys are all about the power of the Maicos..Have you ever UPS your engine to Pro Circuit???

I never said it would help the broad two-stroke cause.  When I said "we" I was referring to those of us who want to see Maico be more than a small shack making 50 bikes a year.  Of course I'm big on rule changes for equal displacement, you'll probably find a hundred thousand riders for every one that believes in it more strongly.

And if you think the new Maico is an old YZ with a new sticker... well I don't want to be offensive but it's hard to do.  You know that there's more to a bike than its plastic, yes?  There are some slight details that are different from a YZ, like the entire chassis, the entire suspension, the entire engine, etc.  Show me a 500cc YZ with left-side kick and a hydraulic clutch, and then you'll have a point.

So, on other notes, it's really not realistic to get Ricky himself.  When I proposed we contact him, it was really one of those nothing-to-lose things.  There's maybe a 1/10,000 chance that he'll take the hook, and perhaps that would be worth it.  I don't really see Chevy having a problem with their driver testing a bike, and does anyone know if he actually does still have something with Suzuki?  I'm not sure, it's certainly possible.  But that's just details.  The broad thing I was trying to get at was the prospect of having a big name to test the bike.  Even if it's a name from ten years ago, like McGrath, or Johnson, or anyone that people would recognize and trust.  Hell, even Super Hunky could make some waves.  I'm not trying to make light of what we're already planning, an enthusiasts' test is better than no test at all.  However, if we have someone with some PR weight under him, it'll do more to revive this all-two-stroke company than a bunch of dudes from the internets.

And I can see how a high-level pro would be able to pick apart the little things and be used to crazy-tuned works bikes.  But, I don't see any reason why such a rider wouldn't be able to compare this bike to any other stocker.  It would seem very strange to me if whatever tester we got had no idea what a normal stock bike even felt like, I mean, that would be a pretty hefty bubble to be in.  We're not talking about Mick Jagger here.  And if this reviewer finds that the Maico truly is worse than the Japanese competition, well that's Maico's fault.  Don't we want a non-biased test?


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2010, 08:31:41 PM »
Hmm...  I wonder what RC would think of the 2010 Maico.  Does anyone have an eMail address to contact him?  Imagine the impact THAT test would have!
The problem is that I think he still is under a contract, not necassarily a contract to ride for them, but to support suzuki, and have a couple of their bikes laying around for publicity purposes, but who knows, it is always worth a try.

The part that you have to keep in mind is a guy like RC has been used to getting big bucks for racing for many years... in addition he is now on a "track" to become a NASCAR race driver... these two things would prevent him from accepting an offer to test a machine like the Maico.

Plus as you guys are so fond of talking about regular guys riding older machines, how would someone of RC's caliber help in testing a machine? He is way, way, way faster than anyone that I know of, is very particular about his setup and is used to racing/riding bikes costing hundreds of thousands of dollars.

I don't get it....  ??? ???
I bet you that the Project two fifty rider is faster than Ricky Carmichael(I am sorry, I forgot his name, Brain fart, it happens), because Ricky hasn't been riding seriously for 2 years now, we have a rider who can test pretty well.
I'd rather be riding...

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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2010, 09:04:49 PM »
I totally forgot that we had him (Mike Leavitt, yes?)  I'm not sure how big of a name he is in the spotlight at the moment, but with any sort of success in the project, he should be a fairly hot topic.  So yeah, nevermind all that before, we're pretty-well covered if he's onboard with it.


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2010, 03:15:12 PM »
People like RC are bought and paid for by a small pacific island, likely would either go against their contracts with the big kahunas or could hurt his relationship with a fat paycheck to test, especially favorable, to a small outfit with no ties to him.  

So, even if he would do it, he would not score it favorably even if he wanted to (actually shouldn't score any stock production bike good based on what they ride).  Plus, he is not a magazine style tester like Super Hunky as John said, he requires bikes that are molded to his body.  I mean, the bikes he raced they took a plaster cast of his body and formed the bike afterwards.  

Also, unlike Super Hunky who would do an honest test I don't think any magazine tester (let alone a big name racer) ever would anyway since even other magazine testers were not doing it 30 years ago since they would loose ad dollars (I'm pretty sure Dirt Bike magazine lost some ad cash for showing how ill-handling some of the bikes were back then).

As far as new Maicos looking like a YZ, I don't really see it but even if it did that's not a way to test a bike.  "Ok, I am testing these new bikes, ok, KTM looks like an orange so must suck.  Honda looks like a red apple, so probably sucks.  Ok, RM looks like a sun since it's yellow, I think thats the best bike because I like the sun".



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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2010, 02:31:00 PM »
my favorite bike as a kid was always the kx 100, i always wanted one but only ever got to ride my mate's i was stuck with the old xr100 lol not much of a camparison, still think the kx 100 is the perfect size bike for a  teenager not ready for a 125



my fav bike now would have to be my RM 250 , 02 model haha a bit biased i think :)


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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2010, 06:28:00 PM »
2008 KTM144SX everyone should try one of these bikes, you'll never want to give it back- unless maybe your a desert racer

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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2010, 07:11:47 PM »
1981 KTM 495:The fastest production dirtbike to this day!!!  My 2008 KTM-300xc ,2008 MAICO-500mx and without even seeing a major test yet the 2010 MAICO-500,620 & 700 mmx and I also have to say any Suzuki RM-250 from 2005 and up!

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Re: What is your favorite Dirtbike?
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2010, 07:35:36 PM »
Unfortunately, the KTM 495's record did get beaten by a KX500.  However, it did so on only a very slim margin, and I seem to recall they lowered the suspension way down, while the KTM stayed virtually stock except for the gearing and miniature rider.


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?