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Rear sproket drop?
« on: March 11, 2012, 01:48:37 AM »
Hello, i have a modded kx85. I have been wanting to experiment with gearing, i wanna gear up i believe. by dropping 2 teeth on the back sprocket. I want to do this because since it has aftermarket motor parts and stock gearing i feel like it revs out too fast in a gear and has so much more potential in each gear. I know this will be a pain for keeping it in the powerband and such. But will these changes aquire my desired results? Thanks
Dan
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2012, 03:47:46 AM »
Motor modifications, your weight and ability,and the gearing you are running now?
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 10:53:59 PM »
Pipe and silencer, high flow carb, reeds, ported, polished, lightweight piston, hot rod crank.
130lbs (heavy for it) expeirianced on the bike.
Stock gearing
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 07:59:18 AM »
Are you reaching top gear alot is more to the point, they gotta be quite low geared to stay on the pipe.
I take it you flat shifting it already? ie changing gears without backing off the throttle, this is key on the 80,s and 125's i reckon.
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 09:52:36 PM »
yes i power shift, and hmm well i think it will make each gear wider and i think it has enough powr for it...
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2012, 05:43:48 PM »
Dropping two teeth will have a huge effect on an 85.  One thing to also consider, where is the rear axle as far as chain adjustment goes?  I lke to run mine as far back as possible as it helps keep the front wheel on the ground a little bit more.  I thinking one tooth may be where you want to be.  Plus you would most likely not have to remove a link from the chain and this would move your axle back more towards the rear.  This option would allow you to switch between the two set-ups depending on the track and track conditions.
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2012, 08:38:19 PM »
Thank you!! that was just the answer i was looking for. Ill let you guys know how she turns out!
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2012, 11:03:35 PM »
So ive seen alot and people say they are already geared too high.. does anybody have personal experience? should i drop a tooth or add a tooth?
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2012, 02:46:27 PM »
Well they sent me the 49t... with a 12t front sprockert :( now it does exactly what i was trying to get rid of... but worse!
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 01:05:43 PM »
I don't know what you had prior to the change, but it you went to a 12 front from a 13... its like adding 3 teeth in the rear.  What was the sprocket size (front and rear) prior to the change?
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2012, 01:54:17 PM »
I don't know what you had prior to the change, but it you went to a 12 front from a 13... its like adding 3 teeth in the rear.  What was the sprocket size (front and rear) prior to the change?

Do the math. It's like adding 4 teeth on the back.

IMO, 1 tooth on the back is a waste of time. You'll never notice a difference.
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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2012, 05:52:28 PM »
I don't know what you had prior to the change, but it you went to a 12 front from a 13... its like adding 3 teeth in the rear.  What was the sprocket size (front and rear) prior to the change?

Do the math. It's like adding 4 teeth on the back.

IMO, 1 tooth on the back is a waste of time. You'll never notice a difference.

If I read this correctly he felt it was already geared too low.  Dropping to a smaller sprocket in the front is the equivalent of adding three teeth in the rear.  Making a bike already geared too low, seem unridable.
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Sold but never forgotten 1974 Honda Elsinore CR250M
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2012, 06:34:34 PM »
it was 14/50, i wanted 14/49, and i got 12/49. yes it is too low now, revs right out in 6th
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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2012, 07:47:47 PM »


If I read this correctly he felt it was already geared too low.  Dropping to a smaller sprocket in the front is the equivalent of adding three teeth in the rear.  Making a bike already geared too low, seem unridable.

How do you figure it's 3 when the ratio is 3.85 with the 14/50, and 4.1 with the 49/12?

Regardless, 1 tooth on the back is a waste of time. It won't make a noticeable difference.
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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2012, 01:03:10 PM »
A change of one tooth in the front is the equivalance of a change of 3 teeth in the rear.  Its a cheap alternative to a new rear sprocket.  Sorry Beaner, but depending on the bike, one tooth on the back can make a difference. No its not a huge difference, but when your in between gears and cannot find the sweet spot, one tooth may be what you need. 
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2019 KTM 300 XCW TPI
2000 KTM 300 EXC (Son's)
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Sold 1991 KDX 200... fun play bike
Sold 1999 KX250
Sold 1999 YZ125 (son's)
Sold 2001 Yamaha TTL 125 (son's 1st bike)
Sold but never forgotten 1974 Honda Elsinore CR250M
Sold 1974 Honda Elsinore CR125