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Offline EJ

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Re: Hilarious MXA quote
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2011, 02:10:09 PM »
That was a very enjoyable article, nice reading.
And yes, there is a 2012 Yamaha YZ

I guess most of you have seen it already;



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« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2011, 02:20:02 PM »
http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/MXA-MOTOCROSS-SHOOTOUT-2011-KTM-250SX-VS-2011-YAMA-7969.aspx

Well at least they finally have a 250 vs. 250 2 stroke shoot out.

Edit: I should also point out they mention Suzuki listing the RM250 as a 2012 model for the US market...

I had mentioned it on Vital, that I hadn't seen it for a while on the US side. Guess they agree, or copied. LOL.  Either way, makes me wonder if the ol rumors thing that went around was more truth than led on from those on Vital. hmm
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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2011, 06:46:38 PM »
Those stickers look fast.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2011, 09:54:24 PM »
What anoys me about these tests is they mention TM,Husky @ GG but dont test them.
Well test them all together and then you have a true test of which is best.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2011, 01:23:34 AM »
I was thinking a shootout between the 450F and the 250F. Then a comparison with the 250 2T and 125 2T. Many potential buyers I talk to think "I'm a big guy, I need a 450" or "a 125 will be too slow for me". When the truth is that very few of us can ride even a 125 to it's potential. Think to Kurt Caselli in recent times (competing on a 125 in the desert), Shane Watts in the GNCC's, or Hannah overalling the combined 125/500 events.

I believe in the notion that over the course of the race, the 125 is fastest. There are times and sections when the bigger bikes will have an advantage but I think that over the course of a long hot event, the minibike rider would be fresher at the end. I'd also like to see the lap times to see if it is just a pro level phenomenon or if it is the same down throught e ranks.
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2011, 11:06:27 AM »
MXA is still owned by the OEMs. They have a little leeway on 2-stroke verbage, but absolutely no testing against the Fs. they would get spanked hard by the OEMs (er, Honda).

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2011, 11:35:59 AM »
MXA is still owned by the OEMs. They have a little leeway on 2-stroke verbage, but absolutely no testing against the Fs. they would get spanked hard by the OEMs (er, Honda).

Burn, MXA is not owned by any of the OEMs. I have more respect for MXA than say DirtRider or the others (Jimmy Lewis is a straight up asshat), but then Jody can be as well, but he is far more down to earth in person than Jimmy Lewis.

In my conversations with them (MXA) and Dirt Rider they both have been very receptive to the idea of having a 250F shootout with the 2 strokes included (More so in MXA's case, DirtRider while receptive in face to face conversations, and in e-mail, it comes off more as lip service).

Anyhow, I will say keep an eye out in the near future for something like this from MXA.

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Re: Hilarious MXA quote
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2011, 01:42:22 PM »
I think the contributing editors, like Jody, have some of the same desires as the readers, but there is some reason they haven't pitted either a 150/ 250 2-stroke against the 250Fs in a shootout.

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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2011, 09:03:24 PM »
Dirt Action magazine did a 250f test and included the yz144 and Ktm 150. I was hoping they would include the 250's this year but from what I have seen, no luck

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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2011, 11:31:21 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2011, 02:15:21 AM »
Here is the 2008 comparison from MXA. After reading it I had a lot more comments and questions but at least someone did it.

http://twostrokemotocross.com/2008/08/yz250-vs-yzf250-by-mxa/

However, that wasn't the comparison I was looking for. I want to see a shoot out between UN-like bikes. 450 vs 250, or even a 250 vs 125. I would love a 125/150 vs 450F shootout.
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2011, 12:09:03 PM »
http://www.dirtaction.com.au/_webapp_295795/2010_Lites_Class_Shootout

not a bad write up and there are some pro two stroke points bought up

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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2011, 10:20:37 AM »
http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/MXA-MOTOCROSS-125-SHOOTOUT-2011-KTM-150SX-VS-2011-7967.aspx

Just giving a quick heads up, more reviews (that are more indepth than the last two) are coming, with some shootouts against the 4 strokes.

Expect more from MXA soon, like I said before.