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Offline TMKIWI

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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2011, 03:50:27 PM »
While we are at it why dont they just fit auto trans,Traction Control & wrap the whole bike/Rider with bubble wrap to go with the Fooper engine and make it easy for everyone. :-X
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2011, 03:54:25 PM »
I got it, just put everyone on quads
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2011, 03:54:35 PM »
Opps forgot.
Also fit electronic Pneumatic suspension to all factory bikes as well.
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2011, 03:57:03 PM »
Progress isn't such a bad thing.Without it we would still be covered in fur and swinging through the trees (think Ford). ;D
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2011, 04:49:11 PM »
ah but life was so much less complicated in that time. eat,sleep,screw, run from the occasional sabertooth tiger.
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2011, 05:52:03 PM »
Yet again, this is an occasion where the "JETZcorp Universal Race Standards Plan" (JURSP) would save the day.  Have your three standard 125, 250, and 500cc classes with all the rules in place to keep things difficult (manual transmission, no electronic aids, etc) but then also have the total unlimited crazy insanity prototype class, with no rules on the technology except that it's got to have two wheels.  Humanity will discover the fastest way to go off-road on a bike under this system.  Or, they'll discover teleportation, either way, it'll be bad-ass.  Yay for JURSP!
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Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2011, 06:08:08 PM »
Quote from: SachsGS on January 19, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
Progress isn't such a bad thing.Without it we would still be covered in fur and swinging through the trees (think Ford). ;D

Ah yes,those were the days :D
I agree though,without progress some would still be on old Maicos.Oh the horror :o
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2011, 06:12:03 PM »
Quote from: ford832 on January 19, 2011, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: SachsGS on January 19, 2011, 03:57:03 PM
Progress isn't such a bad thing.Without it we would still be covered in fur and swinging through the trees (think Ford). ;D

Ah yes,those were the days :D
I agree though,without progress some would still be on old Maicos.Oh the horror :o

That's incorrect, Maicos are always a Step Ahead!








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Offline TMKIWI

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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2011, 09:23:54 PM »
Quote from: MyckMcClung on January 19, 2011, 04:49:11 PM
ah but life was so much less complicated in that time. eat,sleep,screw, run from the occasional sabertooth tiger.

Nice  :D

I think most people on here know I am not against technology, But why does everything have to be dumbed down so much these days.
Dirt bikes are supposed to be hard to ride fast.
Electric start 50's  ::). Why ?
Electronics have ruined most motosports and made it unatainable except for the very rich.
The best traction control system i have ever heard of is called "The Throttle". ;D

Bring on a DI 2 Stroke bike and i will be a happy chappy.
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2011, 09:33:36 PM »
Quote from: MXPAD on January 19, 2011, 09:19:39 AM
I suspect its a wind up, why would Bubba put himself in a position to accused of cheating
Because the factory said to do it  :P

Quote from: MyckMcClung on January 19, 2011, 01:20:02 PM
Bubba could whoop those guys riding an 81 kx125

hmmmm, dunno 'bout that

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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2011, 06:28:55 AM »
"That's incorrect, Maicos are always a Step Ahead!"

Only cause you can't stop them. lmao
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2011, 01:06:33 PM »
Don't confuse Maicos with Toyotas. :P
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Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?

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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #42 on: January 21, 2011, 07:38:29 AM »
lmao
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Re: tractioncontrol?
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2011, 06:44:20 AM »
Quote from: CCOADY454 on January 19, 2011, 02:18:07 PM
Quote from: ford832 on January 18, 2011, 04:16:52 AM
Much ado about nothing as far as I can see.It's almost guaranteed it's just data acquisition.Honda did it for years on their CR's.
In order to be a traction control system it would have to be hooked up through the trans in order to have a way to regulate traction.It would then require a suitable cpu to run it as well as related wiring and such.As far as that goes,slipper clutches are a form of traction control(for that matter,what about a Rekluse?) but to do it electronically would require a solenoid of some sort to slip the clutch in low traction situations.If it was an ABS system,it would require a cpu as well and a pump set up to regulate brake pressure.Because MX sometimes requires one to slip,slide and spin,the chances anyone will try to gear up an electronic traction control system is slim to none-and it's unlikely anyone would want the weight penalty-or a slipping clutch on a 4t.
If it's not data acquisition,it wouldn't surprise me  if it did nothing at all other than to try to get into the heads of the other riders and teams.In Pro racing,it wouldn't be the first time.


It could very easily be hooked to the ECU and be used exclusively for the start in order to help get the holeshot.  I'm sure they know the wheelspeed at any given RMP, so if it exceeds the known number, the ECU is triggered to retard the ignition timing slightly.  It's probably set to shut off and clear itself after the start because it would affect his jumps if it acted in mid-air. 

Hmmm,never thought of that.In that limited capacity,you're right,it could be easily done.Good thinking.
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