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Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« on: December 18, 2010, 08:05:51 AM »
WOW.... It's so strange how Soubeyras doesn't have any factory support from KTM. It's so strange that he can not get some support and come to the US to race but the guys who aren't going as fast CAN and DO get that kind of support.

Cedric is the fastest but he chooses to ride a race horse instead of a bionic walrus, so he doesn't get the goods! They'll only support the FOOPER TROOPERS!

Maybe it's not a conspiracy... but it sure does suck how Pro Racing, and the way the manufacturers interact with and contribute to Pro Racing, are revealing themselves as total fraud OR anemic half truths at best.

Cedric Souberas is a case in point. When most people see "Pro Racing" they assume that they are seeing a contest waged by a group of the best racers, who are employing the best rules-compliant equipment they can for the task of placing as high as possible in the race. Most people also assume that the equipment manufacturers who commonly support the top riders to garner positive press for their products would not exclude a top rider from that support when he's consistently taking one of their products to the top or very near the top. But, that is what's going on with Cedric Soubeyras because Pro Racing is a fraud and the factories only want it as a commercial for their ponderous 4 stroke equipment.

They obviously realize that the superior 2 stroke equipment will sell itself, so I guess they see any sort of promotional expense as a waste where it comes to the 2 strokes. I guess that's why they can't scrape together any support for Cedric even though he's winning and placing very high aboard a KTM, commonly well ahead of factory Euro KTM guys.

So anyway, it sure is great to know why no one races a 2 stroke in pro racing, because no factory will pay anyone to do it! Thanks KTM for that!

It sure is great to know that it has nothing to do with how good the bikes are! Thank you Cedric for that!

It sure is great to see a guy with backing from a German motorcycle shop beat a whole bunch of factory supported guys on their blubbering double sized FOOPERS!

Thank you Cedric for that!

Best of luck tonight!

Maybe you'll get yours one day if the factories ever go back to racing to win, instead of racing to sell the Bionic Walrus motocross bike concept to the brain dead masses!

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 01:25:34 PM »
Well said
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Re: Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 09:17:10 PM »
I really enjoy your passion TS. Tried posting this on vital yet?? That probably wouldnt go down so well. Did Cedric bring it home ??
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Re: Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 03:31:21 AM »
The race is divided into two Motos, kind of like a National except that it's a 2 day event with 1 Moto each day.

Cedric finished 4th yesterday, someone reported that he got a bad start. We'll see how he does today! Wish him luck!
I think 4 stroke dirtbikes are a phase, kind of like "Glam Rock" in a way. You see the whole world subscribing to it, and you wonder how everyone could be choking down so much Kool Aid and Spam... Then 10 Years later, nothing's left but the timeless stuff from before and after..

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Re: Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2010, 04:56:36 AM »
That someone seems to be me. Well said by the way i think you are right.


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Re: Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2010, 04:54:51 AM »
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Re: Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 09:27:06 AM »
The guy raced 39 week-ends on the last 42.......! He is a bad-ass!
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2010, 09:29:32 AM »
The race is divided into two Motos, kind of like a National except that it's a 2 day event with 1 Moto each day.

Cedric finished 4th yesterday, someone reported that he got a bad start. We'll see how he does today! Wish him luck!

He was dead last at the start..finish 4th! But somebody jumped on his foot..waiting for X-ray results..
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Re: Is Pro Racing a fraud? Was it EVER anything but a commerical?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 02:32:13 PM »
Well the only reason any factory or company sponsors racers is to increase revenue, so if a racer is not going to fit in with their plan(whether or not we think the plan is any good) they either don't get signed or the don't get re-signed. So if this means pro racing is a commercial then yes, Pro Level racing with corporate sponsors are one big commercial to try to get you to buy their products. And as far as fraud is concerned the "Let Broc Bye" sign will never be forgotten.