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Offline compmoto

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real cool, wheel school
« on: September 15, 2010, 04:59:13 AM »
I need to learn more about building wheels. As in , replacing 19"  "MX" rims with 18" rims for offroad use... the initial problem is, finding the hubs. Yup, Talons are $450./retail. But they aren't readily available for non-current (older model) bikes. You know, the ones that NEED them. Either due to wear,or damage, the older bikes are in need. Yes, the fast guys trash 'em on late model bikes, but the older ones are where there is a demand. So , where can I find them ? The parts warehouses have "complete" wheels , and rim/spoke sets listed, but what if one wants to change the rim size , on the OEM hub ? If I already have it apart, I may as well replace the hub with a nifty aftermarket unit, right ? Does anyone offer the hubs seperately ? That's the missing link ... I'm trying to change a Y2K RM250 from 19" to 18", and I've already bought a rim/spoke set. Hubs fit '96-'00, and then '01-?...I'm working(shopping) the Ebay thing also ... thanx for the assist ! GasGas comes with 18" rims on the rear ...
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Re: real cool, wheel school
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2010, 05:47:18 AM »
From my understanding QTM is the distributor of Talon hubs and they have a large supply of them for non-current machines. I would try them...

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Re: real cool, wheel school
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2010, 06:21:25 AM »
John always has the answers... 
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Re: real cool, wheel school
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2010, 07:22:55 AM »
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I may as well replace the hub with a nifty aftermarket unit, right ?
Not necessarily.  You can build a super stout wheel using one of several aftermarket
rims, a good quality stainless steel spoke set and the stock hub.

Billet hubs look nice, are strong but, in most cases, weigh more than the cast OEM hub. 

Try this combo (tried and true and will stand up to pro level abuse):  A Takasago
Excel or DID Dirtstar LTX rim, Buchanen SS spokes and a OEM hub.  This wheel
will be lighter than a billet combo (important considering unsprung, rotational
weight), and will cost less.  If you want the bling, powder coat the hub.  Here
is a picture of an OE Honda cast hub that I powder coated - people are always
asking me where I got my trick billet hubs.

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Re: real cool, wheel school
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2010, 08:29:52 AM »
I'm with dogger. Unless your stock hubs are damaged, I would just use them. Clean them, possibly PC them, slap some new bearings and seals in (if needed), and lace up your wheels with the new rims and spokes. But I am cheap and can't see putting so much money into just hubs.
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Re: real cool, wheel school
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2010, 09:24:34 AM »
ah , good ! then I will go with the OEM hub set up, with my spoke set,and Excel rim , I'm too old for the "bling" factor, I just didn't realize there was no worthy strength, or weight benefit by going aftermarket(Talon)... thanx for the replies, you've helped to set me straight.
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