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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2010, 04:27:27 PM »
I think that the future will look alot different than many of us can imagine from where we stand at this moment.

You know just because I mentioned that the electric bike COULD be the future, does not mean that is the way it will go. It's just an idea and I thought it was worth discussing.

You can argue for or against anything in life... what will that get you?? Most likely a headache... give you an upset stomach... stress you to a level where there is danger you could blow up like an internal combustion engine running at redline with no oil.. (or use you're own flowery description here)

That was not the point of the opening post by any means...

Again this is not for everyone nor would I think that everyone would like it. That's fine and dandy to me.

Personally the appeal of being able to ride an electric mx bike in my back yard has tremendous appeal. Not having to drive 45 minutes to 3 hours to go to the practice track sounds like a great way to protect the environment. Remember your vehicle burns fuel and creates emissions when you drive to the track....

Would I want to watch motocross races where the bikes were totally silent?? I'm not so sure that I would. It would have changed too much from the sport that I grew up with and still love... and the two stroke is a big part of that experience.

Really this is not about saving the world as much it is looking to the future, thinking about and discussing options. Possibly having electric mx races in the inner city, could bring in new fans and racers... and introduce them to the motorized version... maybe we might find our next great mx racer this way?? You never know...

Like I said just thoughts, ideas and speculation.....

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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2010, 05:08:18 PM »
For those of you too young to remember, here is a little primer. When I was young we were told that by now, we would all have hover craft vehicles for mass transit, jet packs that mount to your back so you can fly around the neighborhood. You dinner would be a pill, that you could taste all the courses and be full from it. The "modern" kitchen still does not look like they said it would way back in 1970. I could go on and on. But I'll stop because my Mac just screwed me out of a whole paragraph.

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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2010, 05:43:00 PM »
Read this book.....



While the future was nothing like we imagined it in the 50's and 60's... there are other great things about today... look at us right now.. a group of like minded (similar minded??) folks got together from all parts of the world to discuss our passion for two-strokes... you gotta admit it... that's cool...

By the way...... I always wanted one of these.....v
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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2010, 06:41:38 PM »
John! google or youtube Yves Rossy!!!!  ;)
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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2010, 11:33:06 PM »
Even if its silent there is still the problem in some countries it would still not be legally to ride in the forest.

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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2010, 05:48:28 AM »
Yves Rossy has balls of steel!! While I wanted one, I'd be afraid that I'd slam into some very hard object at high speed!



Yes metal-miracle... that is true... but there are also parts of the world where you can be killed for expressing your opinion if it doesn't go along with the government or the clan... as I said before it's not THE solution it is an interesting concept that is worth exploring....

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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2010, 09:14:36 AM »
I think that the future will look alot different than many of us can imagine from where we stand at this moment.

I used to sell cattle to a man who had spent his entire life as a cattle dealer, he was into his 80's and his physical health wasn't good but his mind was still as sharp as a razor. He'd been around a lot of corners, met a lot of people, observed a lot of stuff over the years, some of it good some of it bad, but as he always said if you can at least learn something from a bad situation you take the hard edge off it. He was very inauspicious, looked a bit like the sort of guy who'd be on the front of one of those really corny Irish postcards that people send home just to prove how primitive the paddies still are!, but he was a pleasure to talk to, providing of-course you had the wit to realise that he knew so much more that you!

Anyway, his take on such things was that for all the predictions made for the future, what actually does happen is usually never foreseen or predicted by anybody. I've paid heed to what he said since then and he's not too far wrong, so god knows what'll be on the marketplace in 2020!

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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2010, 09:52:31 AM »
I thought this was a two stroke site that was dedicated to keeping the two stroke motorcycle alive, and to try and keep or get it back into pro motorcycle racing. If we are on here saying that we want to see advancements in the electric motorcycle, and say that we would buy one and ride it, what kind of message are we sending to people that don't view the two stroke as a viable option.

 I think that we need to distance ourselves from these alternative options of motorcycling. We already have a different option which is our chief enemy...the four stroke.

You've thought outside of the box and didn't follow the crowd or drink the four stroke kool aid, so don't drink the electric bike juice, and reject it as a viable option also. Long live the two stroke motorcycle!!!
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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2010, 10:52:42 AM »
Yes I have censored this thread in a big way!!

I will not tolerate mean statements, slander or hateful comments on this forum. Please re-read the forum rules (which will take less than a minute)

There are literally thousands of forums on the Internet where you can be mad, angry, curse, slander and create trouble. The Two Stroke Motocross Forum is not nor will it ever be that way.

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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2010, 03:27:47 PM »
Dam,I've been busy the last few days and come back and see the negativity thread so came here to see what the hubbub was about-and it's gone-D'oh.Oh well.
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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2010, 07:50:22 PM »
I stand by what I've said regarding electric bikes.  I do believe they will find a market niche for those seeking playbikes, pitbikes, backyard bikes, and urban competition bikes.  However, I also think that the internal combustion engine is too integral to the dirt-bike experience to be eliminated as the primary powerplant option, and alternative fuels will provide an avenue for a sustainable riding industry without sacrificing the core of what makes our bikes great.

That was a long sentence, and a really REALLY long sentence!


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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2010, 09:41:41 PM »
I stand by what I've said regarding electric bikes.  I do believe they will find a market niche for those seeking playbikes, pitbikes, backyard bikes, and urban competition bikes.  However, I also think that the internal combustion engine is too integral to the dirt-bike experience to be eliminated as the primary powerplant option, and alternative fuels will provide an avenue for a sustainable riding industry without sacrificing the core of what makes our bikes great.

That was a long sentence, and a really REALLY long sentence!
I completely agree with you, in fact this is what i was trying to say. I don't think electric will replace internal combustion completely, I just don't. Now, what really adds to this, is your post about the algae being able to create fuels, if this is not a hoax, or a fake corporation, then, I would say, internal combustion engines are saved!
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Re: The future of mx? Electric?
« Reply #42 on: January 15, 2010, 01:11:15 AM »
I agree.  I'm envisioning a world in which fuel economy only affects your wallet, and not your air or your politics.  The fact that the US spends $300 Million in Iraq every DAY attests to the power that this innovation could have for us.  Even if one thinks that global climate change is all a big hippie conspiracy, it's hard to deny the benefits of growing our gasoline in Alabama as opposed to shipping it from Saudi.  Osama's bank account would be drained, and Obama's debt would start to get repaid.  In the meantime, the wafting smoke of a poorly-tuned 2T would be admired for its lovely, all-natural, carbon-neutral odor of magnificence.  All the new energy in the fuel comes from the sun.  Algae are the most efficient users of sunlight on the planet; being able to create a carbon-bond with only 12 photons.  Our solar panel guys have probably never even imagined such a capability.


Is this Maico a 440 or only a 400?  Well in all the confusion, I forgot myself.
But considering this is a 1978 Magnum, the best-handling bike in the world, you have to ask yourself one question.
Do you feel lucky, punk?