AMA Approved Equipment List?

[crash796]

I Just ran across this on the AMA Pro Racing website. Ok we all know about the production rule which is kind of a downer, but whats with only allowing bikes of a certain year to race? What if I have a 2005 YZ250 that I want to race at the pro level. If I am not mistaken 2005-2010 YZ's are all the same bike with only minor changes like spring rates and graphics. One thing that was exciting to see on that list is that Husquvarna has a bike that is "Approved" to race AMA Supercross and Motocross, too bad its not the CR125 two stroke .

http://www.amaproracing.com/assets/AMAPro-MX-CompBulletin-2010-01.pdf

[Super Trucker]

The 06-07 cr125 Honda  is  the  1st  bike listed, yes. I,m  going  to  yank  the  stroker crank  out of my  04, and  stuff  it  in  my 06. Someone  borrow  me there  pro card, thanks. haha  There,s  no  KX125 or RM125  listed, boo. It  doesn,t  make  sense  that  a  05 YZ  can,t  race, but  hey  it is  the ama.

[motomike894]

They do not even look at that stuff when you get there, My RM I raced at a national last year was a 2004 and no one cared.

Yz's all look the same they would not know.

[maicoman009]

  We all know that the AMA has made such a beloved sport into an eliteist sport and that really SUCKS !!!
          The AMA and powers that be should be ashamed of what they've done to the sport of Motocross and Supercross!

[bearorso]

Here's one to ponder, with regards to the AMA rules:

How in 'Effing Hell can KTM be able to use , on Tommy Searles '2011' SXF 250, a Carburettor instead of the 'homologated' EFI ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

This, to me, goes entirely against a 'production' rule.

A carb is an entirely different thing to EFI (well, to keep it simple, I'll treat it as such here - EFI that's been coming in is just glorified carburetion - perhaps that's how AMA and KTM techs would see it as being no problem..............). Perhaps it's allowed because a privateer could choose to remove the EFI and throw on an FCR?

The AMA must have changed the ruling about bike availability - In the Millville Pre- Show, Jason Weigant (Sp?), whilst talking to Sara Whitmore, had Sarah talk briefly about her new 011 - and it was said that they were not available to purchase . Plus, JW said something along the lines of "and you've got the better/newer bike, you've got the EFI, and Searles still got a carb"

I have nothing against KTM as such - they innovate a fair bit and still sell (and minimally develope) 2ts, which make the money for them to throw more at the 4ts.

But this is just utter BS. What is the point of a production rule that, from my research , is so flouted ( Suzuki racing 010s when No 010s were available is another)? ? ? ?

I posted this question at KTM talk - it was all fine and dandy amongst them , it appeared - but I think there would have been hell to pay if the same 'mix and match' / mongrel bike was being used by any of the big 4.

As I see it, an EFI system is not the same induction system as a FCR.

 I can't see how KTM has been allowed to do this.

After all, we sure as hell can't see a TM, new Maico, CCM etc, etc or 2 cylinder Aprilia (I know, twins are banned in AMA - they were too in FIM, but Giuseppe changed that rule quickly - just as quickly as he / the FIM 'disappeared' the rules that were placed at the end of 08 , that allowed the 250 2ts back in MX2 for 2010) - because they are not 'homologated'. And they can't be bought of your nearby show room floor (well, at least for 99.999% of us )

A Bemused Bear

[JETZcorp]

I think they should have it so you can race any bike that is or has been available to the general public for purchase.  So, say that some small company only makes ten bikes a year, I think as long as it's in the right displacement category (regardless of strokes) then you should be able to race it.  By the same token, if you want to take something from 1935 and enter that in a race, you should be able to do so as well (just don't expect to win unless you can ride like a boss).  If the manufacturers feel threatened by this, then that's a good thing!  If you're not confident that your new 2011 bike can stand up against something that's older, just make the bike better, and that means selling better bikes to the public (at a fair market price, of course).  In the long-term, I think that such a plan could only lead to better quality machinery, value for the dollar, and overall diversity throughout the industry.  No more of this nonsense about one kind of bike available in five different colors.

[Watson777]

They do check the VIN at tech. I had to buy a new 250 about 6 weeks ago because mine is an 05....

[JETZcorp]

That's some hardcore bullshit right there.  How much do you want to bet it was the OEMs pulling for that one?

[G-MONEY]

This age thing really T's me off. How many times have we seen bikes with the same bar to foot peg ect.ect. geometry and they are 10yrs. apart? I could see the point that things fatigue and they could cause a wreck and hurt others.But Cow Boy Kenny's KTM seemed to snap on a supercross video that was posted on this site and that bike was fairly new.

Let's face it they want to sell new models. I belive bikes from the 90's could still be very competetive today. and yes even the MEGA TWO could place in the top ten.