Jerry Robin at Lorettas

[brazilian2stroker]

[citabjockey]

[VintageBlueSmoke]

What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

I can't say for him, but I regularly go back and forth and on our local track, I am about 4 seconds a lap faster on modern machinery ('03 GAS-GAS 300 or '08 KTM 144) compared to some of my older bikes ('80 Can-Am 400 or '75 Husky 175). He is on an '85 so has front disk brakes and water cooling. My guess would put it about 2 seconds slower (for me on my track) than modern.

[ktm150rippa]

http://vurbmoto.com/blogs/lorettas-journals-volume-1-jerry-robin/14814/

[eprovenzano]

Nice

[mj4trax]

http://vurbmoto.com/blogs/lorettas-journals-volume-1-jerry-robin/14814/

Very cool...   

[Stusmoke]

I wonder if he can bottle his skill and sell it... Hes clearly overflowing with it.

[Shawn36]

I suppose you can compare laptimes to get a sense of that. Of course that quagmire track chnaged from minute to minute so its not quite real...

So do you folks think if Jerry was on a practice track and kept going back and forth between the '07 and '85 bikes that his lap times would be hugely different? What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

At the training facility he rode at before Loretta's (SOB MX) they did mock races everyday.  On the '85 he was a 5 thru 10th place guy, on the '07 he was 1st thru 3rd regularly. 

[citabjockey]

And this is because of the quality of the suspension? Or is there a handling difference as well?  More stable on the '07? Less swapping? Better in the air? The '07 motor is easier to manage? More power? That seems like a big difference for bikes that both have 12" of travel, water cooling, and disk brakes and probably weigh within 5 lbs of each other. I guess 20+ years of development really have moved things forward!

I suppose you can compare laptimes to get a sense of that. Of course that quagmire track chnaged from minute to minute so its not quite real...

So do you folks think if Jerry was on a practice track and kept going back and forth between the '07 and '85 bikes that his lap times would be hugely different? What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

At the training facility he rode at before Loretta's (SOB MX) they did mock races everyday.  On the '85 he was a 5 thru 10th place guy, on the '07 he was 1st thru 3rd regularly.

[Stusmoke]

Honda must hate this kid so much. Not only is he ****ting all over their fagvanced four strokes on a bike over 20 years older, but hes doing it on THEIR bike which just 13 years earlier they swore they weren't going to produce...

Poetic justice.

[Shawn36]

And this is because of the quality of the suspension? Or is there a handling difference as well?  More stable on the '07? Less swapping? Better in the air? The '07 motor is easier to manage? More power? That seems like a big difference for bikes that both have 12" of travel, water cooling, and disk brakes and probably weigh within 5 lbs of each other. I guess 20+ years of development really have moved things forward!

I suppose you can compare laptimes to get a sense of that. Of course that quagmire track chnaged from minute to minute so its not quite real...

So do you folks think if Jerry was on a practice track and kept going back and forth between the '07 and '85 bikes that his lap times would be hugely different? What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

At the training facility he rode at before Loretta's (SOB MX) they did mock races everyday.  On the '85 he was a 5 thru 10th place guy, on the '07 he was 1st thru 3rd regularly.

Obviously those are questions for either Jerry or the people at the training facility helping him.  The only real issue between the two bikes they mentioned were starts.  He would get killed on the 85 and have to make passes, on the 07 he would start up front.  That was mirrored at Loretta's itself where he pulled a monster holeshot in the 2-stroke B/C but never anything in the top 15 in 250B. 

[msmola2002]

There's a big enough difference between the twin chambered showa stufff on and 07 and something like the open chamber stuff on my 02 kx, let alone going back to the right way up forks. Big difference was mid stroke harshness for the usds let alone goung back another 15 years from that technology.

[luthier269]

Also the skill level of the 250B rider compared to the Twostroke b/c riders were different.