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Offline HCE

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« on: June 26, 2013, 12:11:46 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 12:52:30 AM »
I will never again run a steel sleeve.


NEVER!






EVER!





AGAIN!





PERIOD!
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Offline motoxr377

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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 01:32:08 AM »
http://www.eddie-sanders-racing.com/product_p/yz250%20325%20kit%20big%20bore.htm

any thoughts on this?

I'm glad to see somebody's offering this, but I don't know if its for me.  I'd love to see a review.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 02:16:32 AM »
Been posted before, nothing wrong the cylinder and is reliable. Some issues have occurred before(Powervalve failure) but that problem has been fixed. I would run it(Saving funds for it as a project, but later I would have it nikasiled..
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 02:36:38 AM »
Advanced Sleeve makes aluminum sleeves for CR500s. I'm sure they could whip up one for this.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 10:48:43 AM »
The PV is interesting.

Just a mod for easy changing of spring pre-load / perhaps spring weight, and a damper / adjustment of the air pressure related to the std PV, Or a different power valve entirely? I'm not that familiar with the 'look' of a std YZ 250 Cylinder, to instantly know of any differences with this ESR cylinder casting.

I'd love to know.

At that price, it puts it at the level of a 300 KTM OEM kit . Seems quite a deal, to me, especially as it retains a power valve, when many big bore kits have, previously, done away with PVs. Steel liner / plated liner - either has it's merits / demerits.

I dearly like to have an adjustable power valve on my 500 - and I intend, one day to fit one to it. My experience with pressure actuated PVs, on my Maicos, years ago, was great, especially after I made an alloy top plate, with pre-load adjustment and tried out various springs. The only problems I had, was with the diaphragms, when I went a bit too far with things. Simple, easy to make PVs. On the CR, I probably would have to raise the cradle tops / go to double down tubes on the frame, which is a simple thing to do. Though, I have given thought to using, say, 2 KTM 65 PVs, to widen the exhaust port, or give it adjustable outer 'eyebrows'. It's a way off, though.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 01:12:08 PM »
Blade powervalves are never a good idea.

they close a low RPM leaving the exh boost ports wide open.

So the first pulse of hot exhaust gases are passed through the boost ports instead of the main exhuast port. This not only reduces the effect of the exhaust valve but also makes the area around the boost ports very hot which can lead to seizures etc etc.


Im not sure why they didnt just take the time to use the stock powervalves, abeit modified to suit the new bore?



Although Im sure they are half decent cylinders, if it were me I would opt for a 295cc rebore/nikasil/port job from Eric Gore :)... why fuss over 25cc's!
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 09:03:53 PM »
Insert waston and Gorr cylinder failure.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2013, 12:56:44 PM »
Insert waston and Gorr cylinder failure.

Got a link to that?
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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2013, 02:28:42 PM »
I have a very similar kit to this installed on my trx250R quad.  I've been very happy with it and find that the blade PV works much better than the non-pv that is OEM on that model quad.  The porting is also a huge advancement from what was OEM on my 1986 machine. 

In my bikes, I've been WAY happier with the factory powervalve systems.... and with the nikasil bore. ....   and I don't see anywhere near the potential for "modernizing" with a different top end. 

I kinda think this would be a step backwards in a modern bike....  but I'd love to hear from someone who gets one of these cylinders.
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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2013, 03:29:20 PM »
If you go to Thumpertalk.com, and then go to the YZ forum, you'll find a lot of reviews on these.  Guys that have the Eric Gorr top end have tried these and say they are much better.  A lot of discussion on it over there.  All sounds pretty positive once you get past the jetting issues, but they're having those issues with the Gorr top end also.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2013, 08:51:09 AM »
I'd definitely be up for it, but I think a 350-380 cc would be even better. A real 450 eater.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 06:55:57 PM »
I'd definitely be up for it, but I think a 350-380 cc would be even better. A real 450 eater.

Man, I wish Husqvarna still made their 360.  I have a 2010 KTM 450 and a 1993 Husqvarna WXE 360, and yeah, the KTM is way more nimble with it's modern suspension and frame plus the electric start and hydraulic clutch is nice, but the Husky 360 2 stroke motor just eats up the 450 four stroke.  I wish I could find a modern frame to put this 360 motor in, like maybe a RMZ or CRF, but the sprocket is on the opposite side as those bikes and finding a rolling chassis of a newer Husky WR is near impossible.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 08:18:26 PM »
Just flip the wheel over  :P
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 08:40:50 PM »
Just flip the wheel over  :P
I wish it were that easy!  haha
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