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CLASSIC MOTOCROSS IRON: 1965 CZ TWIN-PIPE 250
« on: March 21, 2013, 08:47:02 PM »
Sometimes Two Is Better Than One (As In Pipes), While Two Is Also Better Than Four (As In Strokes); The Bike That Made Premix A Household Word!



Adolf Hitler tried. So did the Russians. But nothing could stifle the Czechoslovakian spirit?a society that honored its engineers and technicians with a level of respect usually reserved for artists. It?s no wonder that the Czechs would build the best and most reliable motocross bike in the world by 1965.

CZ?s motocross history started in the mid 1950?s with a 175cc bike that was easily modified to 250cc (although the company was founded in 1919 as a weapons manufacturer). The single cylinder?s twin exhaust port design was necessary to help overcome cylinder distortion caused by excessive heat. The original CZ two-stroke engine pumped out 22 horsepower and used a twin-pipe exhaust system.

In the beginning of its development, the twin-pipe CZ was no match for the English-built Greeves two-stroke, but CZ was quick to develop and improve the basic design. Unlike the British factories, CZ was also willing to translate its works bikes into production machines. In 1964, CZ put a production version of a 1963 works bike into the capable hands of a young Belgian rider name Joel Robert. Robert (pronounced Row-Bear) would win the 1964 FIM 250cc World Championship on the CZ Type-968. It weighed just 214 pounds and delivered 26 horsepower. Robert and CZ would go on to win several 250 World Championships. CZ ushered in the two-stroke era.

By 1967, CZ would improve on the twin-pipe design with a new single-port cylinder that utilized a much less vulnerable high pipe. Unfortunately, the factory that was once so quick to make changes now slowed development to a crawl. By the time the Japanese factories came on the scene, CZ had stagnated. They would lose both Joel Robert and Roger DeCoster to Suzuki, and by the late ?70s they were forced to soldier on with Iron Curtain riders.



1965 CZ TWIN-PIPE 250 FACTS

WHAT THEY COST
CZ twin-pipes enjoy celebrity status among motorcycle collectors. A correctly restored twin-pipe 250 will sell for around $10,000, and the 360cc twin-pipe will sell for as much as $15,000.

MODELS
There are two collectible models: the Type-968 twin-pipe 250 and the Type-969 twin-pipe 360.

WHAT TO LOOK FOR
Amazingly, you can buy a brand-new twin-pipe (250 or 360) in Czecho today. Replicas and NOS copies are not as valuable as original motorcycles. Look for the original magnesium hubs (preferably not painted), the hand-formed aluminum airbox, correct Barum tires and original Pal rear shocks.

PARTS SUPPLY
Parts can be found in the USA at Bertus CZ/Jawa in LaPuente, California, at (626) 330-2326. In Europe parts can be found in the Czech Republic from Jiri Starec at +420 342 372 489.

For more info on classic bikes go to www.earlyyearsofmx.com

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http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/CLASSIC-MOTOCROSS-IRON-1965-CZ-TWINPIPE-250-5051.aspx



pretty cool i think!! i always love the old "exotic" bikes
i really think there is a market for an air cooled 2 stroke engine in a modern day chassis for 4k
either that or a straight copy of the old bikes
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CLASSIC MOTOCROSS IRON: 1965 CZ TWIN-PIPE 250
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2013, 10:42:02 PM »
That's a cool bike. My dad had a CZ from the 70's that he said was the best bike he ever had, ripped harder than anything else.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 12:34:00 AM »
Funny how they missed Paul Friedrichs, two time 500cc world champion on a CZ?

I own a couple of CZ's, reliable and nice handling motorcycles.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 01:29:32 AM »
good call sachs.
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 07:15:36 AM »
CZ is one of the amazing motorcycle and people feel very comfortable using it.  Comparatively to its budget it has amazing functionality.

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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 09:30:54 AM »
I would LOVE to have a NEW or NOS one for Vintage Racing. That way I wouldn't cry every time I broke one and I would sleep well at night withuot nightmares of not finding replacement parts.

Hmmm...I might have to look into this...
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 04:01:11 PM »
I sold many, many vintage bikes during the boom before the 2008 "sobering up" period. One bike I really regret selling was a 1975 CZ 250 Falta Replica, I loved that thing.
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2013, 09:52:32 AM »
So far, I am unable to find the replica or NOS CZ's. I have some very good contacts for parts - especially one in Poland, Otz Piotr. Sent me a catalog that I could pretty much build one from...including frames! If anyone has a line on them, please post!
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08 Speed Bird Quad 110, 08 KTM 144, 04 Suzuki LT-Z400, 03 Gas Gas EC, 300,97 Honda CR144, 96 Husky Boy 50, 88 Husky 400WR, 86 Honda CR125R, 80 Can-Am MX6 400, 75 Husky 360CR, 75 Husky 175CC, 73 Penton Jackpiner 175, 72 Husky 250CR, 72 Husky 125, 72 Rickman-Zundapp 125, (2) 71 Bultaco Pursang Mk

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2013, 06:47:27 AM »
CZ is one of the amazing motorcycle and people feel very comfortable using it.  Comparatively to its budget it has amazing functionality.
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