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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2013, 04:55:33 AM »
I agree -- to a point. It is nice having a choice of 3 effective gears going up hills on my 380. With a wide ratio? Not so much. Can really control how much you want the engine to spin with a close ratio SX box.

The down side is the pavement sections in the Virginia City grand prix where my close ratio limited me to 50 or 55 where the 250F's were flying by me at 80.

But that is a rare situation indeed. And the first snotty uphill? I went back by them.


I've never understood why everyone seems to want a wide ratio trans-I always hated it.It's likely great for fireroads or desert but for woods or track,you're much better off having a tighter gear spacing so your not razzing it to catch the next gear or lugging it and working the clutch to get to the next.When I had mine,that was my biggest complaint,followed by the excessive weight of the flywheel.I ended up having it machined down.When I traded it for the SX,all was right again. :)
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2013, 07:14:51 AM »
You should take the light off for track days cos it may very well get broken by roost.

Xc's don't have a light.
EXC's do.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2013, 07:28:37 AM »
You should take the light off for track days cos it may very well get broken by roost.

Xc's don't have a light.
EXC's do.

Sigh. Right again. I'm not having a very credible day am I?
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2013, 02:28:04 PM »
Thats around 7 kgs for a bloody es? Thats bollocks. If you're dead set on a magic button, maybe a 250SXfs would fit it? If so is it ligher? (I'd bet my left nut it is considerably lighter). If so then just buy the XC, ask around at wreckers for a 250SXFs starter and ask them if they would trade the XCs for the SXFs.

I agree with Ford though. It would most definitely be a deal breaker for me. If there was no alternative and I was still set on the XC, I would just take it off. Two strokes are meant to be light and they are easy as pie to start (If tuned correctly) anyway.

i just looked at the specs and the 250XC is 229lbs while the the 250SXF is 229.7lbs which means you just lost your left nut!  :o

I know that 2-strokes are fairly easy to start since i had my kx but the general problem is im 5'3" and cant touch the ground.
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2013, 03:30:22 PM »
Hey Stu:

Does that apply to my 380? Booting a stalled great pumpkin near the end of a 4 hour race might not quite meet the description "easy as pie"  ;-)

Of course the OP is talking about a 250....

Two strokes are meant to be light and they are easy as pie to start (If tuned correctly) anyway.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2013, 08:55:56 PM »
Hey Stu:

Does that apply to my 380? Booting a stalled great pumpkin near the end of a 4 hour race might not quite meet the description "easy as pie"  ;-)

Of course the OP is talking about a 250....

Two strokes are meant to be light and they are easy as pie to start (If tuned correctly) anyway.

Oh come on! You can't count at the end of a four hour race :D I doubt I could start an 85 after an hour let alone 4...
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2013, 09:02:08 PM »
Thats around 7 kgs for a bloody es? Thats bollocks. If you're dead set on a magic button, maybe a 250SXfs would fit it? If so is it ligher? (I'd bet my left nut it is considerably lighter). If so then just buy the XC, ask around at wreckers for a 250SXFs starter and ask them if they would trade the XCs for the SXFs.

I agree with Ford though. It would most definitely be a deal breaker for me. If there was no alternative and I was still set on the XC, I would just take it off. Two strokes are meant to be light and they are easy as pie to start (If tuned correctly) anyway.

i just looked at the specs and the 250XC is 229lbs while the the 250SXF is 229.7lbs which means you just lost your left nut!  :o

I know that 2-strokes are fairly easy to start since i had my kx but the general problem is im 5'3" and cant touch the ground.

Hehehehe short ass. Ok seriously though, when I placed that bet I mean't that the electric start ALONE was lighter, not the whole bike  8) And it would have to be. Theres no way a 250F can be 214 pounds. Not without the serious dollars anyway. The YZ250F is 218 I think and its still carbied.

That is a hell of a lot of weight for an 85 transplant. the Lites used to be around the 200 pound mark  :'( I hope the big four are happy...
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2013, 09:41:15 PM »
Have you looked at the 150 XC? No E-start for that one and it is as tall as the other KTM's but it sure is light. At your height I would look at a lowering link which should drop the rear several inches at the seat and allow you to easily touch the ground. I have a stature challenged friend who has used lowering links on his bikes and is very happy with them.
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2013, 12:38:05 AM »
Have you looked at the 150 XC? No E-start for that one and it is as tall as the other KTM's but it sure is light. At your height I would look at a lowering link which should drop the rear several inches at the seat and allow you to easily touch the ground. I have a stature challenged friend who has used lowering links on his bikes and is very happy with them.

I haven't considered the 150 because I could keep a piston in a 250 twice as long as I could in my 125's. I also like the extra power the 250 has.
How is the reliability of the 150's?
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