Food for thought

[Stusmoke]

good now if only the 47% would just die off we would all be better off. the earth warms and cools and species go extinct its been this way since the begining of time as we know it. do not be a chicken little or the little kid afraid to toss his blankey. in the emortal words of bearasso "harden the f@#k up!" hows that for aruement citabjockey?

And at the end of the day Stephan Hawkins reviewed the evidence and considered climate change to be real.
I'm going put my trust with the man who has the most comprehensive theory of the universe inside his brain, not the big oil PR firm

Good call, but isn't it just as likely that he was bought? You never know what goes on behind the scenes.

[Uniflow]

That's why I use Ethanol ( uses energy to manufacture I realize, no free lunch ). Makes no difference but I can be happy hammering the 350 round the MX track knowing the carbon released is the same carbon that was in the atmosphere last year. Manufactured from a byproduct of the dairy industry here in NZ. I know it's a wast of time but it makes me happy and makes more power.

[TMKIWI]

My biggest beef is with the " Climate tax " which is just a tax being forced on us by the same people who brought on the GFC.
If you don't think that stinks.................... " title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

But don't worry we are in good hands.

[Uniflow]

Petrol company's have no hold over you as you don't use their products. 

[Stusmoke]

Petrol company's have no hold over you as you don't use their products. 

Which in todays day and age is just about impossible. Also, I was given to understand that ethanol produces more heat?

[Uniflow]

TMKIWI good to see you at the VMX on Sunday. Not a bad day considering the sudden track change.

[TMKIWI]

Yeh good day. Thought the track was shit when we turned up but turned out to be quite good by the end. All the offcamber up hills were a bit hard on the 125's tho.
Looked like you hurt your back at the end of your last race. You were holding it pretty hard. You ok ?

[Uniflow]

It makes more heat by the fact that you are burning more ( one of it's down sides ). It has less BTU's than petrol but you are stuffing more in. You are about 7% up on the amount of heat released over petrol. I'm burning fuel at about 1.5 times the rate of petrol but who cares, it smells good!

Back still hurts, what a dumb arss, I forgot there was another hole after the finish line, sat down and hit hard.

[Uniflow]

I wonder if there is too much other stuff for kids to do now ( play station etc ). In my day the motorcycle was not just a fun weekend sport but a necessary means of transport to and from work, or anywhere. Everyone had one, some even two bikes ( rich kids! ). So it was natural to want to be top of the heap so hotting up and racing was what happened on the weekends. Kids these days have got better things to do than dick around with old bikes??  apparently.
I couldn't imagine, what could be better???

[chump6784]

Everything you said was true, and all of it was caused by personal agenda's. Global warming Hoax, Fuel Shortage right Carter tried pulling that card in the eighties, environmental laws borderline terrorism(EPA is the best example). Yes, it all comes down to the personal agenda and screw everyone else. As for population concerns, it shouldn't be a problem. Birthrates are down by considerable amount, the population in Asia will soon fix itself due to the murdering of girls. It isn't just the off road world that is suffering, its everything. You think our economy is bad? We're heading down the same route Australia and Europe and they are suffering horribly. Its all about the entitlements and personal agenda's lmfao.

Dunno where you got the info about Australia's economy but it is nothing like America or Europe. We got 5.2% unemployed and a mining boom happening. As far as dirt bike riding over here goes, the things holding it back are lack of riding areas and the price of living.  The price of gear and bikes gave gone up marginally in the last 10 year's. The costs now are fuel, food and power

[Jeram]

My biggest beef is with the " Climate tax " which is just a tax being forced on us by the same people who brought on the GFC.
If you don't think that stinks.................... " title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

But don't worry we are in good hands.

The "climate tax" (carbon tax) doomsdayer claimers have vested interests in carbon emitting industries.
If you look back at tony abbotts (opposition leader) claims about how the carbon tax would ruin everything back last year? nothing bad has happened! the sky didnt fall in, the chinese still buy our coal and steel, Gina Rhinhart's still a fat troll.

Did you know that the carbon tax was not the cause for electricity price increases in 2012?
The carbon tax simply took a portion of profits of other parties and it actually perfectly balanced out. I got this from a well informed sourse from an manager of engineering for Victoria's electricity grid.
The price increase is due to a stupid piece of federal legislation which states that an electricity company can build 'gold plate' the power network (spend more money than they need to) and automatically be guarenteed to make 8%

[VintageBlueSmoke]

You could run a cr500 for a week and make less pollution than those stupid amercin pickups

Actually, most 2-stroke anything is worse than a modern American Pickups when comparing vehicle emissions. However, that doesn't have to be so. There are several companies that are developing clean 2-strokes, mainly for the third world since they tend to use older 2-stroke engines for daily transportation. In addition, those engines that have been direct injected are cleaner than 4-strokes of the same Hp and have similar gas mileage.

I know that is kind of off topic. As is this: The problem with a Carbon Tax is that the worst polluters will be offset by the least polluters. In other words, those that do will not pay while those that don't will. For instance, if you drive a modern 911 (dirivitive), the air coming out the exhaust is often CLEANER than the air going in! However, that person will be paying a very high carbon tax, while a single jet airliner will spew more yuck on a trans-atlantic flight than all the cars in Delaware in a day. There is no way the airlines could afford to stay in business or charge more to cover the tax and/or to buy newer engines. They are barely alive as it is. All other major polluters are in similer straights - other than the oil industry.

[citabjockey]

Warning threadjack....

TMK, please make a thread on your day at VMX. I for one would love to read it.

Ok, back to our originally sched global warming fest! Wooo Haaaa!

Yeh good day. Thought the track was shit when we turned up but turned out to be quite good by the end. All the offcamber up hills were a bit hard on the 125's tho.
Looked like you hurt your back at the end of your last race. You were holding it pretty hard. You ok ?

[SachsGS]

I've got a biodiesel still at home and run my diesels on recycled deep fryer vegetable oil. I cut the oil half and half with pump diesel for a B50 mix. On long trips I'll go as high as 75% bio diesel and it sure feels good not to waste as much money at the pumps.

After high school the kids of my generation could go to the local sawmill and work there for a few years while they made their minds up about what they wanted to do. The pay was excellent and the job low pressure. When I worked at the mill (before I went back to school) I was put in the dangerous part of the complex because I had logging experience. I made so much money that every third month I could pay cash for a new race bike. Ah, those were the days. The mill is now an Ikea store and I haven't seen anything of it's type to replace it. I just don't think most modern kids can afford offroad motorcycles and, as we all know, the latest breed of high maintenance 4T$ has made it that much worse.

[MikeD94]

Speaking of carbon tax...that's just another form of wealth redistribution.  This in no way will reduce polution.  Also, no I do not believe in global warming theory.  That's hogwash.  Scientist/media can spin the data any way they want to.