Why do people think 90's bike are so bad?

[cnrcpla]

I'm tired of hearing the old "You should get a new bike" line from people. I love shutting them up in all, but why do people think they are slow? I know the new frames handle better and the suspension has come a long way, but mine is tuned and handles really well. Have two stroke engines changed that much? Mines tuned anyways so it doesn't matter, but I'm just wondering...

On a side note... Racing in the woods today against a 450f and 250f and a few 125's, I kept right in back of the 450 in front of all the new bikes until I washed out in a muddy turn and ate dirt  " title="Angry" class="smiley"> Snapped my front break lever and jammed what was left of it into the throttle configuration (I hit the ground pinned in 4th) so I had to call it quites. But its good to know I can still run with the 450s...

[nom de guerre]

You are just a better rider than those other guys... I like the current ergos and suspension more than anything else. Power isn't that big of difference. I would never talk down to a guy for running old iron.

[cnrcpla]

I don't have the stock rear suspension, I had the front tuned for me, so suspension isn't a problem. I'm also weary of aluminum frames, I would rather over shoot a jump and land on flat with a steel frame than aluminum. I do love starting it up though, with the engine being ported and bored and the head planned with the high compression piston, it sounds mean, and goes like it sounds  My friend on his 250f is a pretty damn good woods rider though. Just goes to show its mostly rider.

[citabjockey]

Neither would I   

I would never talk down to a guy for running old iron.

[TotalNZ]

I've got a 94 CR250 thats in better than average condition and goes really hard but it's got nothing on my 09 TM. Old bikes are exactly that OLD.
The parts are usually flogged out the pegs hang a little the kickstarters are loose as well as the shifter levers, the pipes are usually tweaked and the mufflers prob worn out. Then there's things like shift drums and forks kickstart return springs and clutch baskets.
Also suspension bushes wear out and when was last time you regassed your rear shock?
Old bikes are fun and i'd never bag someone for riding one but if you get a brand new bike you'll know what i mean.
 What have you had done to your motor and suspension?

[nom de guerre]

The woods is a great equaliser with bikes ages... It is always rider. As far as aluminum frame fears... When you have a guy setting world distance records on them or these fmx types, they hold up.

[_X_]

hey man they are just jealous or pissed that you beat them on a older bike. keep twisting it cnrcpla.

[factoryX]

If you're keeping up on a twenty year old bike then they have no room to talk.

[TotalNZ]

I mean, do you think I would be any faster on a 2012 yz250 vs my '92? The motor hasn't changed that much so the power is all there, the suspension I'm sure would be a little better, but standing up I can take just about any bump hahaha. The frame improves handling but would the frame make THAT much of a difference? I'm considering taking a  new 250 out for a test ride, but I don't feeling comfortable wringing its neck on the track or in the woods unless its mine, just the way I am I guess.

Yeah you'd definitely be faster, not just that but do it easier and more comfortably.
I raced my old CR lots against new machines and still did ok but there's nothing like the way a new bike feels, it's tight.

[_X_]

yeah i was a little on that last reply. cross-reference the size of the steering head bearings to a newer model yz cause all new bikes have larger fork tubes than your 92 so you will need newer clamps to fit those forks. if they are the same size go from there. just understand that it my not be for the better.

[ford832]

The guy that used to kick our collective new bike arses when I did the HS religiously rode an old IT.Mind you,when he got his new YZ250 he kicked them all that much harder but you get the idea.

[citabjockey]

We have it so easy today. Back in the mid to late '70s, if you were not on this years bike you had a serious disadvantage. From 4" travel in the rear in 1974, to 6" in 1976 to 8" 1978 to 11 in 1979.  in 1980 and 81 the radiators and power valves started showing up. Just try to stay with an '82 YZ with a 77. Sheer slaughter. These days you could keep the same bike for 5 years and hardly notice the difference. The pace of development has essentially stopped compared to the 70s.

[cnrcpla]

Well I just don't have the money for a new bike, I mean I kind of do if I wanted like an 06 yz250, but seeing as I'm off to college soon, I probably wont be doing as much riding so I really don't see a point in spending at least 2K on a bike that will only be ridden once a week if I'm lucky. I guess the thought of starting over new with another bike stock isn't very appealing to me. That;s why I would kind of like to try the SSS on my bike. I would also really like to ride a new 250, KTM or YZ, just to compare it. When I become really out going in MX or woods racing where I can use every second of time I can get, then maybe I will consider another bike when college is paid off 

[beaner]

We have it so easy today. Back in the mid to late '70s, if you were not on this years bike you had a serious disadvantage. From 4" travel in the rear in 1974, to 6" in 1976 to 8" 1978 to 11 in 1979.  in 1980 and 81 the radiators and power valves started showing up. Just try to stay with an '82 YZ with a 77. Sheer slaughter. These days you could keep the same bike for 5 years and hardly notice the difference. The pace of development has essentially stopped compared to the 70s.

That's true. My race bike is an 04 RM 125 and I think of it as current. I sure passed a lot of late model equipment on my KDX (essentially a mid 90's trail bike) today.

[Lolerbabop]

Dude, old bikes are shit!