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Offline TM DEAN

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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2012, 12:24:18 AM »
2T institute lives near you and makes pipes, shoot him a PM.
Cheers for that Jeram :D
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2012, 02:48:23 AM »
no worries, he may or may not be interested but definitely worth asking.
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2012, 06:30:26 AM »
no worries, he may or may not be interested but definitely worth asking.
Hell yeah, i'd love to have him nearby. His cone section chambers are a work of art and i'd say you'd get a performance increase.
Incedently the gnarly pipe is made with a thicker gauge for offroad. my HGS seems to be the same as my PC works pipe on my CR.
Maybe you need a pipe guard.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2012, 11:53:36 AM »
no worries, he may or may not be interested but definitely worth asking.
Hell yeah, i'd love to have him nearby. His cone section chambers are a work of art and i'd say you'd get a performance increase.
Incedently the gnarly pipe is made with a thicker gauge for offroad. my HGS seems to be the same as my PC works pipe on my CR.
Maybe you need a pipe guard.
Have a carbon pipe guard on  which helps a tad,but i think its been bent out of shape and repaired that many times its tends to distort very easily..Scalvini on the way :D
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2012, 12:09:31 PM »
I'd imagine the carbon guards are great at protecting from little dents but anything more than that would turn it into a pipe crusher as they're not structural
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2012, 01:22:48 PM »
I'd imagine the carbon guards are great at protecting from little dents but anything more than that would turn it into a pipe crusher as they're not structural
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2012, 09:59:09 PM »
I have heard good things about Scalvini for TM bikes. That is what Cycle Playground uses on their TMs.
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2012, 05:11:42 PM »
but one has to ask themselves, if they were superior to the HGS, why wouldnt TM use them from the factory?

TM is an Italian boutique brand, no compromises.

If they could use a pipe that made more power (questionable), was stronger (it is, Ill give them that) and was made in italy too (yep), I think they would be OEM.

Interestingly, there are very few dyno chart comparisons for scalvini available online, Id be keen to see some but so far can only find a CR144 (husky) with stock CR125 pipe, VS CR144 with scalnini CR144 pipe that was designed for the 144 huskys
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2012, 07:24:05 PM »
but one has to ask themselves, if they were superior to the HGS, why wouldnt TM use them from the factory?

TM is an Italian boutique brand, no compromises.

If they could use a pipe that made more power (questionable), was stronger (it is, Ill give them that) and was made in italy too (yep), I think they would be OEM.

Not necessarily. Look at their suspension. They always used the standard Ohlins shock when they could have used the TTX that out-performs it. They could use Ohlins forks, or Showa or KYB, over Marzocci. In fact, the new bikes may come with KYB, and they dropped the Ohlins shock in favor of their own designed shock. They could also upgrade to a lighter, better flexing steel frame.

TM does a lot of great things, but not necessarily no compromise on everything. Otherwise, why not have a Titanium frame, titanium pipe, etc.

Anyways, the Scalvini is the most popular upgrade I have seen on TMs.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2012, 08:08:54 PM »
Hi

Here nice read about titanium framed bike and how "nice" it was http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/290/1686/Motorcycle-Article/Memorable-Motorcyles-BSA-Titanium.aspx

I have been watching prices of these bikes with interest, TM is much cheaper here Finland compared to Ktm and in states vice verse, cant understand it, but you cant have all with "cheap"
Just got mine and had 3h riding with it, im liking it very very.

Here you find some dyno figures http://www.scalviniracing.it/eng/articoli4_scheda.jsp?idarticolo=M-TM250300E/001&idcatalogo=AWAC   download attachment.

Chears!
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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2012, 12:57:54 PM »
1hp extra at 6250rpm, a slightly lower peak hp, and a little bit more overrev

atleast theyre honest about the gains unlike the other pipe makers, so they get some credit IMO
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« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2012, 04:13:41 PM »
HGS builds an excellent pipe, it may just be that the Scalvini makes different power.
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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2012, 08:39:55 PM »
Little ot if I may. How long did it Take to break in youre marzocchis? Having little bit difficult to keep my front end under me.
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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2012, 12:14:50 AM »
HGS builds an excellent pipe, it may be just be that the Scalvini makes different power.

true, the power curve is being compared to stock (which is a HGS) so I suppose they arnt doing too badly at all.
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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2012, 03:54:56 AM »
Little ot if I may. How long did it Take to break in youre marzocchis? Having little bit difficult to keep my front end under me.
What year is yours? the 08's needed a shim stack mod to make them rideable for mortals.
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