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« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2012, 12:39:06 AM »
I was just on Ricks site... if he can do all the leg work, by all means go for it!  Just get your Maico...but,  be prepared for lots of questions when people see you with it. Good luck.
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2012, 12:45:17 AM »
no sweat... if you order direct, it should be easy shipping to Baltimore no problem. I would email and/or call direct to Herr Kostler. They ship all around... I had a lot of fun with it all, although it was weird wiring money internationally!!! I am holding out for MI on my next Maico... Do it, you will enjoy the notoriety :)

Sachs has a good lead however and that may prove to be "easier". 

p.s. to Sachs and the Reiger... my '97/'98 250 had one and I preferred the WP on my '01... I don't know.... MM009, Sachs knows his stuff so go with the Reiger.
Yeah nom I have a WP on my Ktm-300 although it's the pds no linkage system that Ktm used until 2012 so I would love to know how well it works on the 2012/2013 KTM-300xc's? Just waiting on a MXA test to get some input.
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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2012, 12:56:41 AM »
I was just on Ricks site... if he can do all the leg work, by all means go for it!  Just get your Maico...but,  be prepared for lots of questions when people see you with it. Good luck.
I'm going to check his site out after I eat dinner shortly.I did @ one time own a '81' Maico 490 mega 2 but I was only 14 years old @ that time & that beast scared my then very skinny 120Ibs. soaking wet arse BIG TIME!!! I wish I would have put that beast in storage but I stupidly sold it.... :(
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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2012, 03:22:46 AM »
I've just never been a fan of the WP stuff and I've owned a lot of bikes with WP suspension. The Rieger shock is incredibly well built (would probably outlast 3 or 4 Japanese shocks!) and has an action that I personally really like. I wish Ceriani would make forks again. I haven't tried the modern Sachs suspension but have  heard good things about the product.

 Rick Lago has been prepping Maicos for at least 35 years and he is a machinist by trade so he knows his stuff. ;D

 The 90's 440 Maicos were really nice bikes, they were kind of like a "zingy" 500.
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« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2012, 12:55:48 AM »


Ford I suspect you have never ridden a 1981 Maico MC490

 So Ford put your money where your mouth is - actually ride an 81 490 before you write the machine off as the delusions of the the over the hill gang.

Sorry sachs but you and the rest of the over the hill gang are delusional.You're right though,I've never ridden one.
My next door neighbour in Ontario had one though.I was 13 at the time so never got a ride. :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">
He had it for a year before trading for a 490 Yamaha.I asked him about his new Yamaha and his reply was roughly" I like some things about the Maico better,but i like being able to ride back home most of all"
The general consensus is that they had very good power and excellent handling(and were ticking time bombs-this part seems to be forgotten though)-I wouldn't dispute that as all seem to agree and I've never tried one.
What continues to amaze me is how many go on like they would kick the arse of anything modern day.It's a ridiculous comment that you hear over and over.I'm still waiting for one of these studs to show up and race one against equally talented riders on modern machines.
Anyhoo,here's one for you sachs.Buddy's a bit of cheerleader("the japanese all took them apart and couldn't duplicate it- ???
Pretty good vid though

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDMQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBmkDqh0fTRc&ei=4NURUP_sBMS7rQHm6YDYBw&usg=AFQjCNG9Rc6HWYc8C7qUOzbBCoN02GlDPA
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« Reply #50 on: July 26, 2012, 03:02:11 PM »
If you,ve never ridden one, and blindly say they were ticking time bombs, then you are writing just to build up your posting count.
   The dilusional are the ones that think the big four had the best bikes back in the 70's and 80's.
   I know of several local 490 Yamaha owners, all are bitching that parts are no longer available, and are ticking time bombs. ( they have far more colourful statements to describe them that cannot be printed on this board) The complete opposite of your comments.
 You really need to try an 81 Maico 250 or 490 before any further statements against them. If you were only 13 in 1981, then you really have no clue what you are even saying, and it shows.
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« Reply #51 on: July 26, 2012, 03:13:43 PM »
What did FogHorn LegHorn used to say ("Those gums are a flapping!")?

Until you ride an 81 490 your opinions are without merit. Having owned an early 80's Yamaha 490 all I can say is that they are o.k..

At the the present time I own one 81 490 and three 81 250 Maicos and reliability wise they are fine. Being constructed of very high quality materials in the long run they are a pleasure to own.

In the early to mid 90's I used to practice with my friends on my 81 and 83 Maicos and would save the modern Maicos for race day. Some of these guys were the fastest on the west coast and I was never last. If my 83 250 had disk brakes I would have trophied, easily.

Ford, if you would adjust your glasses and re read these statements you just might understand. ;)
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« Reply #52 on: July 26, 2012, 03:41:21 PM »
I would run a Maicos Only (UK) Mega II in the Vet class any day... 
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« Reply #53 on: July 26, 2012, 04:02:15 PM »
After searching the web for about 45 minutes (all the time I have to put to the effort)  Here are the only 3 Maico videos I found to be worth watching (that were not already posted).  I'm not a Maico guy, I have never rode one, never seen one in person, all I have to go off of is what my father tells me about them.  Does anyone have any others worth the watch?







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« Reply #54 on: July 26, 2012, 05:12:00 PM »
If I may weigh in here (while putting on my tweed jacket and spectacles)...comparing the Euro (and Canadian) bikes to the bikes out of Japan in the '70's to '90's is a bit like comparing apples to oranges. Most trick parts on the Euro bikes were eventually available to privateers. Sure, the Euro's had some REALLY trick parts but most of them made it to the production bikes (if they worked). To the credit of the smaller manufacturers, you often got mid-year upgrades or service bulletins to improve your machines (Maico and Husqvarna come immediately to mind as does Can-Am). Not so with the Big 4. Bob Hannah never had to suffer through a stock or privateer bike from Japan (although the final year YZ's came pretty damn close to stock and thus were uncompetitive and some would say - evil).

Looking back to those days to compare Euro bikes - and trying not to include new bias' that I've developed since that time, I was a Huskyphile then (as now) so although I liked the Euro "feel" of the Maico CZ, and Spanish brands, the Husky was the most reliable. Handling was the Maico forte' and while CZ, Maico and Bultaco had amazing tractable power, Maico didn't develop the nickname "Maico Breako" for nothing! Spain was going though the throws of an economic upheaval and really never had good steel so the Spanish brands were plagued with broken frames and such. CZ, well what can you say for Eastern Europe during the cold war? And what was Husky's excuse? Well the takeover of Husqvarna AB by Electolux was the beginning of the end.

On the other side of the world, the Japanese economic machine that was mass producing motorcycles that looked and felt nothing like the bikes "the Pro's used" was going strong and their marketing arm pretty much OWNED the publishing industry. And the reach of the factories went right down to the dealer network supported riders. The trick back then to see what was happening in the amateur world. There, you saw a lot of brand loyalty (me on Husqvarna's) and magazine fans (the latest gimmick sled from Japan), but you saw them head to head. You knew who was leading because of the bike and who would be still leading on a Pogo Stick! And yes, you saw a lot of Japanese bikes and fewer and fewer Euro makes, but you could compare them without too much meddling from the factories.

The other thing about the Euro bikes of the '80's was the economic situation in Europe and Japan. Europe was in trouble while Japan was at an all time high. Prices and lack of availability of parts and support were rising for European brands while simultaneously falling and increasing for products from Japan. The Euros were slow to advance technology (witness the air cooled, twin shock, drum brake, conventional fork crowd) and the paychecks that wooed the top riders away to Japan and there is no wonder brand loyalty changed.

Finally, I'd like to point out one more tidbit I learned later in life and never recognised in my youth. We were quick, too quick to move up in class. We barely mastered the 125 and jumped to the 250. I was racing a 250 before I could touch the ground and a 390 before I weighted 100 lbs! That was fine in the '70's but in the '80's, the HP ratings rose significantly: 125's had the HP of the 250 and the 250's greater than earlier 500's! Just as an example, my '75 175 Husky made 17 HP while my '96 139 YZ made (claimed) 32 HP. I don't think my 250 made that in the late 70's. Young men wanted to flex their muscles and show they had balls to they bought open class Maico's, Suzuki's, and Honda's when most couldn't handle that kind of power. Speeds also increased due to better suspensions and add to that the tracks were changing to be more "supercross" like. More and more riders were getting hurt.

I'm not calling anyone out. I just wanted to point out why we believe what we do and put it into a historical perspective. Now let me remove this stupid tweed jacked and put my shorts and flpi-flops back on. It is hot as hell in here!
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« Reply #55 on: July 26, 2012, 06:26:16 PM »
I just sold my 81 mega 2 about 2 years ago.  As good as it was it was not close to a new bike in the suspension department (duh).  The power was very tractable and strong (I currently have a CR500AF for comparison).  The bike turned well but it is very wide and seemed fairly heavy.  You do need to know how to work on them but that was true of any bike back then.

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« Reply #56 on: July 26, 2012, 10:18:45 PM »
If you,ve never ridden one, and blindly say they were ticking time bombs, then you are writing just to build up your posting count.
   The dilusional are the ones that think the big four had the best bikes back in the 70's and 80's.
   I know of several local 490 Yamaha owners, all are bitching that parts are no longer available, and are ticking time bombs. ( they have far more colourful statements to describe them that cannot be printed on this board) The complete opposite of your comments.
 You really need to try an 81 Maico 250 or 490 before any further statements against them. If you were only 13 in 1981, then you really have no clue what you are even saying, and it shows.

OK Paul,you have to stay after school for remedial reading class. ;)
What I said was "The general consensus was they had very good power,excellent handling and were ticking time bombs"
I repeatedly said I had never ridden one.Oh yeah,typo,I was 16 in 81.I also never said anything about the Yamaha other than the fact Mark preferred it to his Maico and I never said the japs had the best bikes either.I've heard lots of stories about these as well.
Over the years I've found if 99% of the riding population and Mags and editorials of the time say a bike has excellent handling and good power-it probably does.By the same token,if they all say the same machine has many mechanical issues and goes on to list the same ones over and over-they probably do.
If on the other hand,someone says a particular machine is the best thing ever built-even as compared to others that are 20 yrs newer,they are likely a fanboy.
If you want to get after me for something I said,next time why not make it something I actually said.
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« Reply #57 on: July 26, 2012, 10:33:38 PM »
What did FogHorn LegHorn used to say ("Those gums are a flapping!")?

Until you ride an 81 490 your opinions are without merit. Having owned an early 80's Yamaha 490 all I can say is that they are o.k..

Ford, if you would adjust your glasses and re read these statements you just might understand. ;)

Ok sachs,I readjusted my glasses(no bifocals yet though) and reread everything.In an effort to put an end to this I will from this point on agree with you and Paul.Therefore,I now have come to realize that I was wrong.The Maico's aren't at all what you read rather they are:

1. Hands down the best motorcycle ever built-both past and present.

2. A magical machine that had power and handling nothing has ever managed  to duplicate to this day.

3. A motorcycle who's demise was solely the fault of various shadowy figures who conspired to bring them down.

4. A machine that only needs lend it's name to a modern version in order to make that bike the second best bike ever built.

...and finally,when Jesus comes back to earth to save us all,he'll be astride an '81 490 and all the jap bike owners will be thrown into the depths of hell.

There,are we all on the same page now?  :)

Oh,btw VintageBluSmoke and Yota, logical thought,knowledge and honest firsthand evaluations will get you nowhere when dealing with age tainted memories.Pleas reread above.Thank you. ;)
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« Reply #58 on: July 26, 2012, 10:50:41 PM »
^^^ FINALLY...... I knew you would come around and realise the truth afterall Ford!!!! Now go junk your YZ....



Haha.
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« Reply #59 on: July 26, 2012, 10:52:47 PM »
I'm on it . POS Yamaha,friggin japs never could build anything any good. :D
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