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I saw a good rumor about Honda on another website.
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2013, 11:50:52 PM »
And Racerx doesn't have to worry about his little head thinking for him with his vagina doing all the talking
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aaahhhhh yes, I remember the good old days

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« Reply #61 on: March 02, 2013, 11:59:09 PM »
Stusmoke, I've been a honda fan since i saw a all red honda cr125 with red grip's. Not sure the year but i started reading about moto-x in 1976 or 1977 and been in this dirt bike riding sport ever since. I've seen the progression of mx and how it's ergonaumically the baddest sport their is.The way a rider moves on a bike is incredible and 2s mx has never gotten it's due. Just as it hit big it was turned into nascar 4$ bike mx and now it's dying.

I think if honda or any bike manufacture won't produce 2s mx bike's it's time someone else does and some companies already do. Now it's time to sell those bike's in red. Isn't red the most dominate color? I've often wondered if honda would not of been red would they have dominated like they had. I think by going red it helped set the aggressive tone of honda's r&d and i think it's the coolest color. Any bike i've had was either red or red was put on it and if i built 2s mx bike's you can bet they would be in red and or any color that rider's wanted. For me riding a dirt bike is cool but riding a red dirt bike is mo better.   KIM
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« Reply #62 on: March 03, 2013, 12:06:45 AM »
theres nothing funny about a vagina, stu.

Maybe not, but when its used to bag you out its amusing  ;)
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« Reply #63 on: March 03, 2013, 10:50:17 AM »
gpnewhouse, I don't get it you're on a post about honda cr rumor's and you're mad at people who oblivisiously like cr's. I don't know what bike you ride ? I don't know if you're loyal to one brand or not. I do know alot of people wish honda as well as other manufacture's would make 2s's again. Why would i go out and buy a bike i don't want just to say i support the sport. I  support this sport everyday by loving it and trying to add my 2 cent's into the mix as well as buying the supplies to maintain the bike i have. I use to buy a bike every 2 year's when i could so i feel i've supported this sport then and now.

So my question is when does this sport do right by me. I've alway's been loyal to moto-x as well as the brand's i like as long as they make a quality product and i may someday have to buy a different brand of bike other than the honda cr 125 i prefer but that does'nt mean i won't fight for a cr. I'M A MOTOCROSSER  i don't back down from a challenge i fight and maybe if honda see's all the people who want 2s cr's maybe just maybe they'll start to make them. How cool would that be to know that because people did'nt quit posting their desire for these bike's the manufacture's started building them again.  To be one of the people to get honda to come back to 2s mx would be worth bragging about better than telling them to punk out and buy second best. KIM


Don't you think that maybe Honda would react more to the fact that smaller companies that sell smokers are taking away some of their market share than they would to someone posting on a forum?

And btw I'm not brand loyal, I buy what I feel to be the best bike for me.
I've had Hondas, Yamahas, Suzukis and KTMs and if Maico release a 125 then you`ll be able to add them to that list.

Oh and about you said you wanted a red two stroke, hello Maico.
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« Reply #64 on: March 03, 2013, 12:00:27 PM »
woudnt be hard to get a bit of a Lobby action going if we got a large group of people together within a period of a few days and spammed the honda motorcycles facebook page with:

"I bought a 2013 ___________ two stroke because honda wont produce a new CR, another sale honda has missed out on."
*insert photo

Doesnt really matter if they are just generic photos from the internet, doesnt really even matter if you didnt actually buy a new two stroke this year, its more about the publicity stunt.

Lobbying is the only way to do things these days, and there are only two ways to do it.

1. with a shit load of money (which we dont have because if we wanted to throw money out the window we would be racing 250Fs)
2. with a shit load of people




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« Reply #65 on: March 03, 2013, 12:11:10 PM »
sing it with me:

my head is small,
but the vag is large
i got me two hondas in my garage! 
now don't you go hate'n on my skill,
cause the vag will tell ya f^@kin' chill!
peace!
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« Reply #66 on: March 03, 2013, 01:10:33 PM »
sing it with me:

my head is small,
but the vag is large
i got me two hondas in my garage! 
now don't you go hate'n on my skill,
cause the vag will tell ya f^@kin' chill!
peace!

Slam dunk :D

woudnt be hard to get a bit of a Lobby action going if we got a large group of people together within a period of a few days and spammed the honda motorcycles facebook page with:

"I bought a 2013 ___________ two stroke because honda wont produce a new CR, another sale honda has missed out on."
*insert photo

Doesnt really matter if they are just generic photos from the internet, doesnt really even matter if you didnt actually buy a new two stroke this year, its more about the publicity stunt.

Lobbying is the only way to do things these days, and there are only two ways to do it.

1. with a shit load of money (which we dont have because if we wanted to throw money out the window we would be racing 250Fs)
2. with a shit load of people






Count me in. Face book accounts aren't all that hard to get into either. It would be hilarious for someone to get into Hondas and post up some very pro two stroke stuff....

This conversation never happened  ;)
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« Reply #67 on: March 03, 2013, 03:42:19 PM »
Gpnew house, Aren't 125 maico's just a rumor? Don't maico's cost alot for older technology? Yes i like red but i also like the shape of a honda cr. To me their the best looking dirt bike with the best form, fit and finish. Whether honda lose's sale's to a smaller company or people post their desire for a cr, or even lobby for 2s cr's. It all has a accumalative effect and show's on many level's people want a cr 2s.

Beside's if this is war you don't just attack from the front but from all angle's.  VIVA LA REVOLUTION. Racer-x you're vagina is wack, next door neighbor is a butt crack , Man up and grab you're ball sack. I'm startin to spew venom in meter, verse and rhyme. Crazed white rapper without any skill just enough to make you all look ill only one thing left to do wipe my a** and flush you. just kiddin... >:-D :-* :-* :-*   KIM
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« Reply #68 on: March 03, 2013, 04:11:13 PM »
If you like the honda, you'll love the Gas-Gas. Same fit and finish. I could be wrong but it used to be the same plastic!
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« Reply #69 on: March 03, 2013, 05:09:39 PM »
Yes, Honda Are a Four Stroke Company.

Yes, they Have used their influence to control racing class rules, and, through that influence, change the market, almost exclusively towards the Four Stroke.

Honda's Engineers, are their Engineers - they didn't have '2t specialists' in terms of career streams - they move their engineers constantly - they believe in multiple engineering skills. Yes, they'd keep Engineers in say, the 2t program for some time, but, unceremoniously, move them to something else.

I, for one, believe they will do All they can do, to stick to their "All Four Stroke, All The Time", ethos.

But, I hope that market pressure, changes that. As it did in the Seventies, with the massive Off Road explosion.

There could be a second version of that, if the potential markets of India, China and the ever growing South American Economies do just that - Grow. That of course, applies to Road Bikes, even more.

So many ignorant Westerners, think that the above mentioned markets will not be interested in Dirt Bikes - or just 'recreational motorcycles' in general. Well, as I've written on KTM Talk, with so many Millions of Millionaires, and Millions upon millions of new "middle class" people - if even a poofteenth, of a poofteenth of one percent of those people think Dirt Biking looks cool, there will be a market that utterly Dwarfs the "western market". And they have a Lot of land available, despite the Billions of people they have, as the population crowds into the cities.

Price, as always, will be a big factor, as will environmental cleanliness of production, and use will be an even bigger issue. A 2t will always have less materials used in their 'making', so, a cheaper engine is a given.

Who knows - Honda may well be 'forced' by market forces, to re-embrace 2t production. But you can guarantee they'll fight it.

As for power outputs - there's plenty to come from 4ts - just look at the power the Moto 3 bikes have, specifically Honda's, at a relatively low state of tune (a whole bucket load less than KTMs 2013 'purchasable' bike, though it it about 1/2 the price), but a lot more than current production MX250Fs. But, it's not particularly 'cheap power'. As Four Stroke power is Never cheap.They'll need something like the 'Holy Grail', a cheaper , more efficient induction train - such as the often pursued Rotary Valve. No guarantee it will be cheaper, of course ......

Here's a bit of wishful conspiracy theory for you - Honda, to get the 150F class at (some of) the GPs, agreed to bring back a 125 2t for the EMX125 class............ Even though I wrote it, I think it's BS. I'd say Luongo just shooftied a goodly wedge of money into an account on the 150F deal.

On another tack - but dealing with 2ts: BMWs German Husky CEO, often referred to the 2T DFI Husky being developed.

Now, was / is that a BMW proprietry technology / development, or Husky?

 I'd think BMW's.

I'd be surprised if Pierer's (sp?) / Bajaj's Husky, has that tech as 'theirs'.  I could be wrong.

But, with BMW having openly referred to it, and their refocusing on their street bikes, and their stated aim of going for the mass transport / commuter bike market, albeit the 'higher' end of it, the DFI 2t looks to be the best of solutions. I'd prefer that, than for it to be part of the Husky sale, and have it 'disappear' from sight, in preference to a 'one solution fits all, KTM system'. Mind you, Pierer / whoever ends up being the real owner of Husky, may have thought / may find that the BM /Husky DFI is better than their version - if it's part of the sale package.

If Honda never gets back to 2ts - and, with their corporate ethos, that's the most obvious thing for them to keep to, well, they can rot in hell. And , hopefully, "suffer in their jocks". Right Royally.
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« Reply #70 on: March 03, 2013, 05:12:12 PM »
man, never thought i'd be in a rap battle here on TSM.

general i be with ya
so don't go an hate!
this damn s#!t ain't up for debate
as you can see
i love me some honda
so what you be sayin'
i'm kinda fond a'
so lets stop now
before we take it any furtha
cause i wont be liable for lyrical murder!
word!
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« Reply #71 on: March 03, 2013, 06:53:49 PM »

Racer-x it's true  there's no battle between us  we on the same crew  you stand up for me  and i for you 2stroke rider's the coolest of the cool  radist of the rad and don't forget to mention baddest of the bad. 4$troke rider's saddest of the sad  look how easy they been had. glad we on the same line knockin 4 joke's ain't no crime.

Blood thirsty rider's both of us be. as long as you not seigfried and roy you cool with me. Going for the win  victory ain't no sin.  LYRICALLY I WIN  2stroke brother's til the end   I'm not a fiend but a friend  GENERAL KIM
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« Reply #72 on: March 03, 2013, 08:29:14 PM »
OK, two stroke rap....  I think someone's been sniffing to much premix   :o
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« Reply #73 on: March 03, 2013, 09:59:46 PM »

Racer-x it's true  there's no battle between us  we on the same crew  you stand up for me  and i for you 2stroke rider's the coolest of the cool  radist of the rad and don't forget to mention baddest of the bad. 4$troke rider's saddest of the sad  look how easy they been had. glad we on the same line knockin 4 joke's ain't no crime.

Blood thirsty rider's both of us be. as long as you not seigfried and roy you cool with me. Going for the win  victory ain't no sin.  LYRICALLY I WIN  2stroke brother's til the end   I'm not a fiend but a friend  GENERAL KIM
word to the og! beeeatch!
peace.
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« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2013, 01:06:47 AM »
Gpnew house, Aren't 125 maico's just a rumor? Don't maico's cost alot for older technology? Yes i like red but i also like the shape of a honda cr. To me their the best looking dirt bike with the best form, fit and finish. Whether honda lose's sale's to a smaller company or people post their desire for a cr, or even lobby for 2s cr's. It all has a accumalative effect and show's on many level's people want a cr 2s.

Beside's if this is war you don't just attack from the front but from all angle's.  VIVA LA REVOLUTION. Racer-x you're vagina is wack, next door neighbor is a butt crack , Man up and grab you're ball sack. I'm startin to spew venom in meter, verse and rhyme. Crazed white rapper without any skill just enough to make you all look ill only one thing left to do wipe my a** and flush you. just kiddin... >:-D :-* :-* :-*   KIM

Not in production yet but Neil Berry of Maico international did say in 2010 that they were working on a new 125 that would be released in 2012 so while that deadline wasn't met I am still hoping that the 125 didnt get scrapped altogether.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/2012-maico-125-motocross-bike-announced-27431.html
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