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Offline JETZcorp

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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2010, 11:02:55 PM »
I can imagine that would be a big help.  I once spent five minutes on a 440 Maico and that damn thing required a hand of forged titanium in order to use the clutch (although who in the hell uses the clutch on a 440 Maico, anyway?)  However, I have never encountered a brake, front or back, that really required much force to pull in whatsoever.  It's just been a non-issue, and the effectiveness of the brake hasn't seemed to have any effect on this.  So that's why it seems peculiar to me that so few bikes have hydraulic clutches, and so many have hydraulic brake calipers.  I would be curious to see a comparison on just how much force is required to disengage a clutch, versus how much force is required to clamp on the brake disks.  Especially on the rear brake, I mean, the amount of power you can put down on a brake lever like that is practically endless.  That's what makes me think that maybe there's something inherent to disk brakes that requires they be set up with fluids and hydraulics, rather than rods, cables and levers.  Don't read too much into this, I'm not implying that one is better than the other, I'm just wondering why it be.  If nothing else, it's got to cost a bit more, right?


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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2010, 11:33:34 PM »
Magura makes a hydrolic clutch cable that allows for about 20% extra pull.  I've seen them on 1981 Maicos before but I've been trying to contemplate seeing if I can find one that would work on my 1983 Maico, it's quite hard to pull.  So is the 82, but I think the 83 is even worse.  It requires a long cable though, so need to see if I can get a magura with a longer cable.

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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2010, 03:45:41 AM »
Hydraulic systems, jetz are one of the simplest systems going.
The Romans used hydraulic systems 1000 years ago. Using water.

Machanical systems are not practically maintenance free.
They are just a pain in the arse.
Hydraulics are not all voodoo and incense.

Have a ride on a modern euro bike with hydraulic clutch. Go for a 4 hour ride in some of the shittiest tracks you can find and i guarantee you will not want a cable clutch again.
Yes cable works fine , but once you have used hydraulic you will wonder why every bike does not have one.



My 550 Berg clutch pull was similar,if not easier than a 125 cable type.There's really no comparison.
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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2010, 09:54:24 AM »
Not to mention, self adjusting.  I love the hydraulic clutch on my katoom
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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2010, 10:54:32 AM »
How does the hydraulic clutch compare to the cabled?

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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2010, 11:18:01 AM »
The pull is lighter / easier.  With the cable you need to adjust the cable from time to time.  The hydro is self adjusting.
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Offline Charles Owens

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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2010, 09:50:44 PM »
A tip on bleeding front brakes, unbolt the caliper and bleed it while the brake line is straight.
Air rises in the fluid, with the arch around the fork air has 2 way to go up. If you straighten it out and bleed its muuuch easier. :)

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Re: How to make front brake on my YZ feel firm???
« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2010, 04:21:30 PM »
Sometimes I crack the bango fitting next to the master cylinder if I am having problems bleeding a brake.

As stated in earlier posts, the beauty of hydraulic brakes and clutches is that they are self adjusting.