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Offline riffraff

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Re: GNCC anyone?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 09:00:49 PM »
Pretty sure that rule is for pro races only, it's been around since the 70's, I remember Honda almost lost Marty Smith's factory bike back then. The factories were so scared of losing their expensive factory bikes they made their riders ride production bikes.

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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 09:19:49 PM »
its a pretty bs rule. i was talking with the old lady and she is up for doing rounds 2,3,and 4 gonna start in the vet c. maybe do one up north.  i have til march to get ready.

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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 09:38:55 PM »
I kind of like the rule, because it equals out the playing field by keeping you from dumping money into a bike that might be sold against your will. However, its still bogus, and f-ed up.


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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2011, 09:46:25 PM »
Back in the 70's the claiming fee was $2500 now it's 30 percent of msrp, you'll notice they can't claim vintage bikes  ;D

from what I've heard horse races are also claiming races
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Re: GNCC anyone?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2011, 03:57:22 AM »
...now it's 30 percent of msrp...

Close, not 30% of msrp, but 30% OVER msrp:

1. All sanctioned meets are claiming meets. The claiming
price shall be 30 percent over manufacturer suggested
retail price using the Black Book AMA Official Motorcycle
Value Guide, Kelly Blue Book or NADA appraisal guide
and include the complete motorcycle or minicycle. Vintage
and ATV class equipment will be excluded from the
claiming rule.
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Re: GNCC anyone?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2011, 05:47:57 AM »
That's the AMA for you.
If a pair of 2" brass balls isn't working, I doubt that the 3" model will make much difference.

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« Reply #21 on: January 24, 2011, 06:15:10 AM »
If you want to gauge your class/speed just google some vids and judge your speed accordingly as for what class you'd fit.Ill post one over in the vid section.
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« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2011, 06:31:44 AM »
Ignore the claiming rule.  Pretty much obsolete & has been banned by some race organizations.  I don't believe it's even enforceable.  In any case, no one is going to want your bike.  As for the racing.  Do the trail riders class first.  In this series the age classes, Vet, Senior, Super Senior, etc., are filled with seasoned racers.  Even some of the +50 guys are turning laps faster than the younger B riders.  If you doubt that check here & look at the lap times from last year.  http://www.racer-results.net/results/gncc/2010/results.asp  The fact is you can sign up in any class you want.  You'll just finish we you're going to finish.  That is why the trail rider class makes more sense.  Personally, if you've never raced at all, I suggest hitting some local races in your AMA district or CRA, etc.  It's cheaper & you'll gain experience.  If you're anywhere near district 5 it looks like they are going to have a full schedule for Hare Scrambles this year.  And last but not least, relax & have fun.  Your not going to be the next David Night or Shane Watts.  And you have to work tomorrow, right. :o
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Re: GNCC anyone?
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2011, 06:42:48 AM »
oh yeah, work, :(
If a pair of 2" brass balls isn't working, I doubt that the 3" model will make much difference.

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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2011, 08:00:20 AM »
Your first race is kind of like bungy jumping,scary as h*ll at first,and then so much fun once you've taken that first step.Change can be very uncomfortable but I will bet after that first race you'll be hooked.My first race was as a young teenager on a friend's XL250,I entered the beginner's class,got lost and had a great time.

A friend of mine pitted for me at one race,I was 18 at the time.While I was racing my family Boxer broke into this guy's tent and ate his entire KFC meal - bucket of chicken,gravy,fries - everything! At the end of the race this huge guy came over and asked if Shawny was my dog.We became the best of friends and raced everywhere, you meet the nicest people at motorcycle events. ;D

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« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2011, 03:59:16 PM »
Didn't Marty Moats make this fameous?? I may be mixed up but I think he was the one who claimed a factory bike.
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« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2011, 09:09:14 PM »
Mickey Boone made the first claim on Bob Hannahs bike, the next time a claim was made was by a guy named Bill Barlow for Marty Smiths bike. Those are the only times there has been a claim as far as I know, this was during the '76 National series.


        Excerpt from the same article,

"The reason for the claim on Marty Smith's Type 2 by Bill Barlow was in stark contrast to the reason Mickey Boone claimed Bob Hannah's OW27.  Boone was a former Honda factory rider who rode works bikes and was now on a production bike and knew the difference that a works bike would make in his results.  Barlow on the other hand was a rookie So Cal rider in his first year on the Nationals and had never ridden a works bike before to know the difference."

 
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