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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: Brutal Editorial from Sweden...
« on: November 24, 2010, 01:21:00 PM »
i used to lik the tv show CHiPs, about the california motorcycle cops. Loved that show. I watched it a couple of years ago and it was truly unwatchable. i mean bad acting, terrible stunts, awful dialogue. But the bikes were cool ;-)

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: New Fantics
« on: October 27, 2010, 11:26:39 AM »
A street-legal 300cc 2 stroke for the Aussies? Those lucky b*stards!!

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: KX500 vs KX450F
« on: October 27, 2010, 11:10:42 AM »
If Kawi or Honda ever threw all their resources into building a 450-500cc 2 stroke, the results would be devastating. i mean a state-of-the-art big bore 2 stroke that would eat a KX450F for lunch and shit the parts out its stinger. Even Service Honda uses engines that are actually decades-old designs.  

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: New 2 Stroke Direct Injenction
« on: October 21, 2010, 08:12:06 AM »
Three words: Skidoo 800 Etec

If you are going to look ANYWHERE for where the future of 2 stroke motocross engines might lie, it has to be with the Ski-doo etec snowmobile. It simply is the closest engine of its kind to what would be needed in motocross. The engine is a twin cylinder 800 that deliver 163hp at the crank. Slice it in half and subtract 15% transmission loss to the rear wheel and you've got a 69hp 400 that sips fuel and oil (injected, not mixed)and doesn't pollute. If that isn't enough to persuade the AMA to allow them in then i don't know what is.

The ski-doo engine is made by Rotax, the same people who make the 3 wheeled Can-am Spyder. So I believe it will be Can-am who is the first to introduce a DI 2 stroke bike, especially since they have a strong dirtbike history

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: Transworld change of heart ???
« on: October 16, 2010, 01:19:12 AM »
was there a KTM 150 in that video?? :P

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: 350
« on: October 13, 2010, 07:56:45 AM »
there's gotta be a no-holds-barred test between the KTM 250SX and the 350SX-F. It's still not a fair fight but i bet the 250 would shred the 350

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: China now making 2 stroke dirt bikes!
« on: October 12, 2010, 11:25:02 AM »
along the same lines, i was stationed in South Korea in the early 80's. We once took a tour of the Lucky Goldstar Electronics factory (they eventually became known as LG). Let me tell you the antiquated CRAP they were making! I mean walking through that factory was like going back in time to the 1950's! All of us were shaking our heads at how primitive their products were. Fast forward to the late 80's when the Hyundai cars came to America. COMPLETE CRAP again. Well, LG and Hyundai now are state of the art. And China has the potential resources to far exceed anything South Korea can produce. China may be crap now but i'd definitely keep an eye on them..   

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so i ran right out and bought the issue. Terrific test is right! they did a thorough comparo, using different tracks, riders, skill levels, the works. I think the 150 won but i'm biased (the pro's went fastest on the 150 so i'm happy) but regardless, the 150 did very, very well. What's amazing is that in this day and age, the supposedly antiquated 2 stroke can spot the 4 stroke $1,400 msrp and a 73% displacement advantage and STILL win!!! The way the article reads, it's so close between these two that i'd imagine the 250SX would absolutely annihilate the 250SX-F, which in my way of thinking would be the fair comparison, not this one.

They did make a big deal out of the 4 stroke's torque curve and i'll admit the dyno shows that its got several ft/lbs on the 150 until the higher revs. That translates into what all the riders said - that the 250SX-F is easier to ride out of corners. But again, it's got 73% more engine for fucks sake!

Now more than ever after reading this test, we need an apples-to-apples, mano-y-mano 2stroke versus 4 stroke comparo.

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: Here's a 2 stroke question... Pipe/turbo/blown
« on: September 17, 2010, 11:41:38 AM »
I would use a centrifugal supercharger if it were up to me.  Not as efficient as a turbo, but it would be a lot easier to figure out what your exhaust is doing without something doing weird things to your exhaust pressures, temperatures, etc.  Besides, the last thing you need on a motocross track is turbo lag. I agree about the turbo-lag thing, but if you did use a turbo the pressure coming out the stinger end would be stable enough to spin the blower without affecting combustion.

I think you would still need an expansion chamber, because the function of the expando isn't so much one of back pressure, but of resonance waves.  When the exhaust port opens, the escaping gas creates a shockwave that travels through the pipe.  When it reaches the diverging cone (start of the chamber) the expansion causes a low-pressure wave to be sent back to the exhaust port, which acts to suck exhaust gases out.  But then when the original wave hits the back end of the chamber, it's reflected back to the exhaust port as a high-pressure wave.  This acts to keep the fresh air/fuel mix from leaving the cylinder and escaping out the pipe.  For a brief period, the flow of exhaust through the exhaust port can actually be reversed by this wave.  Unless your turbo would be able to perform both of these functions at the correct timing, I don't see it replacing an expansion chamber. Agreed. and for high boost applications i'd go with double-walled thickness on the expansion chamber ;-)
You are correct that the forced induction would make scavenging happen more quickly and that would lessen the need for the diverging part of the chamber, which is there to assist the flow during scavenging.  However, if you're running any sort of boost pressure at all, it's going to scavenge so thoroughly that you'll be blowing tons of air and gas out the pipe before it ever gets a chance to be burned, and that's true of a turbo or a supercharger.  So you'd have to very dramatically change your porting, you'd need a completely differently tuned expansion chamber, and I would probably want to see a trapping valve of some sort put on the exhaust port. DKW used 2 stroke supercharging on their racing bikes back in the 1930's. Fuel consumption was stunning. Their solution? Humongous gas tanks ;-)

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: Transworld Questions the Pros....
« on: September 15, 2010, 05:32:07 PM »
my niece was raising funds for a school project, and if you contributed you got to select a magazine. Well, the only thing of any interest was a motocross magazine called Transworld mx. what a juvenile, advertisement-riddled, anti-2 stroke piece of crap!! i mean VERY anti 2 stroke. i hate to give them my money but you've never steered us wrong John so i'll check it out.

Chris

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: Off Topic, Sort of - Bike Prices
« on: September 11, 2010, 06:20:34 AM »
inflation, the strengthening of the yen against the dollar, and the fact that the 4 strokes were artificially priced to begin with. remember back then there was a much smaller price disparity between 2t and 4t, sort of a teaser price to get everybody on the 4t's

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: Steel City
« on: September 04, 2010, 05:33:35 AM »
this becomes the perfect example of how insurmountable the odds of racing a competitive 2 stroke are. lets face it - with no development work in years, with a lopsided displacement disadvantage, with tracks designed ill-suited to work in its favor, and with all those in power doing their best to keep it down, its simply not possible to field a competitive 2 stroke bike

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General Two Stroke Talk / Re: AMA Petition Stats
« on: August 18, 2010, 04:05:19 PM »
This is the kind of grass-roots campaign that's needed if we hope to ever get the 2 stroke back in contention. Terrific job. Thank you!

Chris

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TxTechRedRider - it's true, Honda has made outstanding 2 stroke motocross machines, and is the leader of the anti-2 stroke crusade. Since they no longer produce 2 strokes and have stepped up their anti-2 stroke rhetoric and deeds, it makes it easier to badmouth them.

But ALL RESPECT to those riders riding red.

Chris

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