I was hoping someone would make this a post.
For starters Ford you saying that the difference between the two bikes isnt enough to make up for a talent difference between the two riders aboard them is like saying that an xr100 is as fast as a 2013 crf450 because if James Stewart was on the xr and me on the crf he could make up for the difference by being a better rider.
Also for the sake of the board could you all please state if you have rode both bikes or not and what years they were and the cc etc.
I have rode a 06 yz125,02 sx 125, 03 sx125, 08 exc 200 and an 11 150 sx and while the yz was easily more reliable and better handling than the 02 and the 03, the 08 and 11 bikes proved to be more reliable and both me and my mate think they handle better aswell.
Also if you've ever rode a KTM for a day or more's worth of riding and then jumped back on the Yamaha then you'd soon wish you had a hydraulic clutch on the YZ.
I don't know your abilities gpnewhouse put if you're putting yourself in with JS7, you are a true talent indeed.
It's a lot of a reach to compare average riders and 450's and Pro riders and XR 100's-especially when we're talking about similar displacement MX 2t's and average TSM forum member riders.I really don't see how you come up with that.
My YZ clutch works just fine.I've got a long lever,cable and pivot well lubed and the perch is moved in towards the centre of the bar for max leverage.I can two finger it easily.That said,a hydro clutch is the cat's arse-but not a deal breaker-and also has nothing to do with "KTM's continuous development of 2t technolgy"
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I don't know Evo's abilities but I'd be willing to bet whoever was faster,would be faster on either machine.
My main riding buddy beats me almost all the time-regardless of what bikes we own.He just happens to be a better rider than me.
By the same token,the people I beat-and those who beat me have remained pretty constant over the years-regardless of machinery-though none of us are James Stewart and none of us ride XR100's.
I'm too old to remember everything as around here we all like to trade off whenever someone gets a new steed or just try them out after the race around the track a bit.I'll take a crack it it though....
KTM's I've owned from new:
'00 125 EXC
'02 125 SX
'05 Husaberg FE550e(still a Katoom-so there)
KTM's I've ridden-some extensively,others one or two rides.
02 200 EXC
03 250 SX
05 250 EXC
06 450 EXC
What year was the 400? Two of those and a 525
I rode an MXC something but forget which-200 maybe?
08 200
10 300
11 300
Husaberg 470
Husaberg 650 (yah-freakin-hoo)
Husaberg 450 x 3
Husaberg 550 x 2 (other than my own)
Something like that and a few others-I may have some of the years off by one or two.
Other Euro's
Husky 125's-2 one older,one newer but neither of the "new" look.I forget the years.
Gasgas 125
Gasgas 250
Gasgas300
Jap I've owned
99 RM 125-I bought new
01 YZ 125
02 YZ250
XR250
Jap ridden:
CR125-few of these
CR250-and these
CR500-just one
RM125 and 250 (some)
KX125/250 (some)
YZ's-some of both
KDX220 and 200
CRF 250R
CRF 450R
CRF 450X
KXF250
RMZ250
Cripes,I don't know-some other stuff of whatever years.
I assume you want to make sure someone has ridden the "new tech KTM's" and the "old tech japs"
In my case,yes.
Update....
KLX300
Honda trials-SL I think?
Yamaha trials -TY?
Montessa Cota 315r..sweeeeeetttt.
Couple of IT's and DT's-only 1 490
Another update
XL250
XR400
XR600
XRL 650
DRZ 400
KLX400
Can AM 250
Can Am 400
XL175
Oo,wait,gotta couple more...
Z50's
XL80
RM80
CR80
YZ80
KX80
PW50
JR50
TTR 125
RT 100
LEM 50
CRF 100
Yeah,ok,bottom feeding a little now
so I'll call that close enough.How'd I do gpnewhouse?Do I qualify?