Add 144 race to 2 Stroke World Champs

[Coop]

Would it be possible to have a petition up on the website so the guests and members of the website can sign it? Also a print version so we can bring it to our local tracks?

I suggested this earlier in the other 144 thread and it got promptly ignored, LOL.

[maicoman009]

That Gas Gas 144 was a sweet looking bike & I did see a smile on the riders face but I wish he would have ran the ol'girl like I'm sure it needed to be ran!

[burn1986]

I think a petition is a good idea and I would be willing to help you on it Coop. I am going to try and get in touch with Jeff Ward and see what his AMA role is and possibly how to present it. I think that we may have to see what happened the first time, since it sounds like the AMA was going to do it, but Jeff Ward voted it down. Does anyone know how to go contact him? If we can't contact him or gain a little research into the first AMA decision, then I think we should go ahead with a petition. I just don't want to see a whole lot of work get wasted.

[SwapperMX]

Yeah definitely should look at taking the petition thing further and try and create a change a national race level

[JohnN]

I think a petition is a good idea and I would be willing to help you on it Coop. I am going to try and get in touch with Jeff Ward and see what his AMA role is and possibly how to present it. I think that we may have to see what happened the first time, since it sounds like the AMA was going to do it, but Jeff Ward voted it down. Does anyone know how to go contact him? If we can't contact him or gain a little research into the first AMA decision, then I think we should go ahead with a petition. I just don't want to see a whole lot of work get wasted.

You could try Facebook... Jeff Ward is one of my friends there, although I've never attempted to contact him...

[burn1986]

Good Idea, I try it today and let ya'll know.

[burn1986]

Here is the link to the article (thread) commenting on the vote of not allowing the 144cc in the 250F class, along with Wardy's reply:

Here's the link to that article (post):
www.dirtrider.net/forums3/showthread.php?threadid=122780

Here is Jeff Ward's reply on page 2:
I guess I should have stayed longer, if it passed with ONE vote. but couldn't stay. that 144 will NOT be competitive with a 250F, unless you have a rider that can stay wide open on the pipe all the time. They should do away with the handicapping and let them run normal CC limits as in the past. 250-250. 2 strokes are dead? LOL see how long that would last if the handi-capping stops.

any way, in committee i voted against the 144, simply because it's a bandaide and not a fix to the problem.

at least the schoolboy or the riders coming off 80's won't be "forced" to ride a 250.

wardy

I have tried to sign up to Wardy's facebook page and am still working on it.

[Super Trucker]

Yeah  John,s right  100 to 150cc  was  3  different  classes  years  ago.  If  you  want  a  144  class, make  sure  you  have  after  market  144cc  mod. engines  included. Then  the  engine  builders  will  go nuts, with  diffferent  theries. I  have  a  04 cr125 2mm  stroker crank, 2 mm  overbore, carb borred  to 40mm. Before  the  motor  was  decked,ported,40mm carb,icat, pc pipe,v force, I  only  rode  the  144  a  little bit, long  story, but  it,s   way  faster  than  the  37-38 hp  motor.  A  mod 125  doesn,t   stand  a  chance, around  20-21  lbs. of  torque  in  a  144 mod. motor, touch  the  cluth  and  instant  20-21 lbs. of torque, if  there,s  traction  250f,s  are  kids  play. hehe

[burn1986]

When you say stroker crank, does that mean that the rod is longer? (I realize this may bleed over to technical questions so I will continue this question over there)

[factoryX]

yes and no, it means longer stroke of the rod, so it can be multiple things.

here is an example of a stroker .

[CCOADY454]

When you say stroker crank, does that mean that the rod is longer? (I realize this may bleed over to technical questions so I will continue this question over there)

The crank makes a LARGER circular motion.  The rod either has to be shorter, or the piston pin placement needs to be lower in the piston (custom piston) or a combination of both. 

[burn1986]

So the one on the left is the stroker? If a YZ (or CR RM KX, etc) is stroked and bored then it would be equal to the 150SX?

[factoryX]

edit, dumb post by me.