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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2011, 05:41:03 PM »
I would try it! It couldnt hurt anything, only bad thing that could come out of it is they don't stay on due to your knees wearing them down.

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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2011, 08:07:22 PM »
You don't need a brush hone, you can use WD-40 (or something similar if you are anti WD-40 lol) and a new scotch brite pad to restore the crosshatching if the cylinder is within spec. Just takes some elbow grease.

Top-ends on two strokes really are very easy. They seem scary and the way some guys talk they sound more daunting than they really are. But once you do one you will wonder what you were worried about  :D .

You are good with video, just take pics/videos anywhere you get stuck and we will gladly help you here. You can do it dude!



No offence intended Coop, But a scotch bright pad Will not under any circumstance restore the crosshatch pattern.
If you work in one spot too long it could remove the crosshatch.
A scotch bright pad is OK to use only to remove a carbon buildup, or some aluminum smearing from the piston (usually on the exhaust side of the bore).

A brush hone is the only method a reputable builder would use to restore the crosshatch.

That is why I stated You should take it to a local shop who has a brush hone. It may not need it, But No one can tell you that without seeing the cylinder.

I think You can do the tear-down and assembly yourself Andrew, But since it's your first time it would be good to have a machinist take a look at the cylinder. It would also be a great idea to have a factory service manual to look over.

It is much easier than a four stroke, But still important to get it right.


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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2011, 08:46:53 PM »
No offense taken. I meant to remove the glaze so you can "restore" the crosshatch. I shouldn't have used the word restore I guess because I can see the confusion now. But it's common lingo when talking top-ends.

I still say do it yourself. I worked as a mechanic for years so I admit I sometimes forget what it's like when you are first learning but I encourage to buy a manual and learn to do the work yourself.
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2011, 09:07:00 PM »
 ;D I will be ordering a piston, rings and a gasket kit shortly, and I may take it to my dads to help me if I get a chance. If not, I will watch a tutorial or two then take it apart myself and take photos and post them up here to see what you guys think. If I need to I will take it to the shop a couple miles down the road and have them hone it.
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2011, 09:39:48 PM »
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2011, 05:43:44 AM »
That is a pretty good video, I have seen it before.

I just want to point out two things.

1) The second clip once the new piston is on can be a bear, I assume that's why he didn't show it LOL
2) He briefly mentions it, but doesn't even show it in the tools view, but you will need a torque wrench because the torque on the head bolts is critical.

Good luck and I think you will be fine.
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2011, 09:39:57 AM »
I thought it was kinda funny that he mentioned the TUSK spring puller twice, But didn't show a torque wrench in the tool view.

I also agree with Coop, The second wrist pin clip is a bugger (wear safety glasses).

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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2011, 02:03:38 PM »
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I thought it was kinda funny that he mentioned the TUSK spring puller twice, But didn't show a torque wrench in the tool view.

Tusk must not make a torque wrench
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2011, 08:34:32 PM »
That is a pretty good video, I have seen it before.

I just want to point out two things.

1) The second clip once the new piston is on can be a bear, I assume that's why he didn't show it LOL
2) He briefly mentions it, but doesn't even show it in the tools view, but you will need a torque wrench because the torque on the head bolts is critical.

Good luck and I think you will be fine.

How much do torque wrenches cost? And what clip are you referring to?
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2011, 08:35:17 PM »
Oh, do you mean the 2nd clip down on the piston?
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2011, 10:25:56 PM »
I did a top end once, it's fairly straight forward.
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2011, 07:06:44 AM »
Oh, do you mean the 2nd clip down on the piston?

Yeah that little circlip you see him removing and installing with the pliers. It goes into the side of the piston where the pin comes through.

As for the torque wrench, I know local auto-part stores around here have "loan a tool" programs. Just leave a deposit and get it back when you bring the tool back. Might be worth looking into if you don't want to/can't afford to buy one right now.
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2011, 04:23:15 PM »
Ive rebuilt atleast 20 two stroke dirtbike engines of all sizes and NEVER used a torque wrench. Never had a problem. Am I lucky?
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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2011, 05:08:09 PM »
Ive rebuilt atleast 20 two stroke dirtbike engines of all sizes and NEVER used a torque wrench. Never had a problem. Am I lucky?

I don't think anyone is that lucky, You have a good feel for it. Most people don't.

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Re: Getting the bike ready for 2011
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2011, 01:04:53 PM »
Think I'll need gaskets as well?
Depending on how dirty it is in there, you might not even need to pull the head off. just take the barrel off and then you only need a base gasket.