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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2013, 01:58:57 PM »
That RS125 was sort of a lemon, but was getting 30-32mpg, which is hilarious as that is about the mileage I'm getting with my yz250 on the trail(Hauling ass). There was a reason people were switching out those aprilia motors.
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2013, 03:22:44 PM »
Motorcycles have high drag coefficients compared to automobiles as well as being in a different (higher) state of tune. This is why I don't really understand electric motorcycles (not scooters) - high drag and no room for batteries.
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2013, 05:07:22 PM »
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.

Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.

I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.

rgv is a 250cc v-twin.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2013, 07:53:06 PM »
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.

Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.

I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.

RS125 is a single cylinder 125, the 130kgs wet weight doesn't help
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2013, 08:15:33 PM »
Yeah the rgvs were a little porky for a 250, but I think they came in under 3 cwt, so could be worse
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« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2013, 05:14:21 AM »
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.

Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.

I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.

rgv is a 250cc v-twin.

Then that makes the case for it even worse lol.
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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2013, 06:29:18 AM »
Not really, that's a carbed 250 with twin 125 cylinders, and it is tuned for semi full performance. So, 25-32mpg from a 250cc twin that will pull 120-140mph isn't that bad. With modern carbs AKA electron or APT, or EFI expect it to be closer to 40mpg. As for the RS 125 motor, it was honestly a turd.
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2013, 07:14:17 AM »
that will pull 120-140mph

140 maybe with modified gearing. and a tailwind. and a 120lb rider. Off a cliff.

Saw about 200km/h at eastern creek, my cousin saw about 206-208 on his before it ran out of gears.

no go with aftermarket carbs. Downdraft.
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2013, 09:29:23 AM »
As for the RS 125 motor, it was honestly a turd.
Rotax 123/122 is great engine. Recntly at the salt races a modified RGV got 210kmph a track based RGV got 202kmph, these a performance two strokes and fuel economy shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2013, 11:54:34 PM »
The Key thing about that article, is that it was printed / published in a Mainstream Newspaper .

When have you seen this sort of thing in the LA Times, Washington Post, NY Times / your major cities Newspapers / News Sites?

That there are inaccuracies - is disappointing, and, sadly, to be expected these days. 'Journalists' should make an effort to get it right, it's their job to get facts straight.  :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

But, look at the inaccuracies / mistakes made here on this thread by posters. It happens.

As for the street RS125 - well, look to what is replacing it. A bloody 4t 125. I'd rather ride a learner spec RS125 (and they are not much fun - compared to derestricted ones), than the RSV125 (I think it strangely has the 'V' designation?).

Aprilia, bear as much responsibility as Honda in the demise of 2ts, especially in Road Racing, as I've pointed out many times. Bastards, equally. 

I wish I had the unallocated money to snaffle the last of the RS125 Road Bikes. A mate has snaffled nearly every last version of Sports 2ts, over the space of near 30 years - as well as numerous 4t Superbikes. He's recently wheeled a 'last of the line' RS125 into his workshop / gallery. Bottomless pockets can sometimes be put to good uses. 8)
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« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2013, 12:23:01 AM »
The Key thing about that article, is that it was printed / published in a Mainstream Newspaper .

When have you seen this sort of thing in the LA Times, Washington Post, NY Times / your major cities Newspapers / News Sites?

That there are inaccuracies - is disappointing, and, sadly, to be expected these days. 'Journalists' should make an effort to get it right, it's their job to get facts straight.  :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

But, look at the inaccuracies / mistakes made here on this thread by posters. It happens.

As for the street RS125 - well, look to what is replacing it. A bloody 4t 125. I'd rather ride a learner spec RS125 (and they are not much fun - compared to derestricted ones), than the RSV125 (I think it strangely has the 'V' designation?).

Aprilia, bear as much responsibility as Honda in the demise of 2ts, especially in Road Racing, as I've pointed out many times. Bastards, equally. 

I wish I had the unallocated money to snaffle the last of the RS125 Road Bikes. A mate has snaffled nearly every last version of Sports 2ts, over the space of near 30 years - as well as numerous 4t Superbikes. He's recently wheeled a 'last of the line' RS125 into his workshop / gallery. Bottomless pockets can sometimes be put to good uses. 8)

30 or so years from now when everything is running off a renewable energy source, those things will be worth their weight in gold. That dude might have spent alot on his collection, but if he decides to sell them all much later, its gonna be worth it.
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2013, 12:45:10 AM »
Lawl, look on Aprilia forums, they struggle to get 36hp at of the rs125. The motor is a turd. And once you start pushing 34-36hp, the whole motor starts to fall apart. I wasn't joking about people switching the motors out.
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« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2013, 02:39:24 AM »
Lawl, look on Aprilia forums, they struggle to get 36hp at of the rs125. The motor is a turd. And once you start pushing 34-36hp, the whole motor starts to fall apart. I wasn't joking about people switching the motors out.

Well the bikes used in a Spanish CEV spec class all made about 29kW at the wheel. Please tell me you have actual experience with this motor rather than base your conclusions on on bikes with engines maintained by 16yr olds on forums.
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« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2013, 04:19:34 AM »
You mean that PJME is not the internetz pinnacle of motorcycle tuning? say it ain't so!
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« Reply #29 on: March 11, 2013, 05:34:08 AM »

"APRILIA RS125 - $3200   2009. Euro wiring harness. All stock. 550miles."

So is it worth it, it's on Craigslist
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