The Truth

[TMKIWI]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=10855487

[ford832]

Sweet,good article. 

[Stusmoke]

The first part is flat out wrong. KTM makes their EXc, XC, XC and whatever other variations there are and Aprilla makes a 125 two stroke road racer, RS125 which is Legal for road use in (In Aus anyway). Yamaha hasn't lead any two stroke revolution, they've pumped out the same bike since 06 while KTM's two stroke lines, offroad and motocross have been selling like hotcakes. KTM is the manufacturer that is consistently changing the bike and usually for better.

[TMKIWI]

He's talking about MX not offroad stu.
Different rules.

[Stusmoke]

He's talking about MX not offroad stu.
Different rules.

He mentioned dual sport and superbikes in the first paragraph, thats where I was headed. Everything below that was well written though. A no BS attitude is what magazines need.

[msmola2002]

RS125 is no longer sold in oz. They started selling a 4 stroker last year I think?

[msmola2002]

http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Aprilia-RS125.html

not quite correct - last ones are being sold now

[Stusmoke]

http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Aprilia-RS125.html

not quite correct - last ones are being sold now

I can understand people preferring four strokes for street riding. Ease of use and fuel economy at low RPMs is what you'd need.

[factoryX]

http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Aprilia-RS125.html

not quite correct - last ones are being sold now

I can understand people preferring four strokes for street riding. Ease of use and fuel economy at low RPMs is what you'd need.

Actually, most series don't allow two strokes to race. And as for fuel economy, r6's are reporting 29mpg if you ride the bike the way it was designed(45mpg if you cruise and do nothing else), so what fuel efficiency are you talking about?  The NSR500 was unmatched in the end and was put down because of it...

[Stusmoke]

http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Aprilia-RS125.html

not quite correct - last ones are being sold now

I can understand people preferring four strokes for street riding. Ease of use and fuel economy at low RPMs is what you'd need.

Actually, most series don't allow two strokes to race. And as for fuel economy, r6's are reporting 29mpg if you ride the bike the way it was designed(45mpg if you cruise and do nothing else), so what fuel efficiency are you talking about?  The NSR500 was unmatched in the end and was put down because of it...

Huh? Really? So two stroke onroaders are actually more efficient? How amusing. I wonder how much longer manufacturers can afford to push this four stroke bullshit. I'm actually pretty sure I could get better mpg out of my 125 and it barely functions.

[2T Institute]

Aprilia only makes parts for RSW ans RSA 125's you could never buy a new one only lease, the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages. The RS125 is in every way a far faster and better learner legal road bike than the shitter CBR 125 and Ninja 250.

[SachsGS]

This guy must be smoking crack. Yamaha hasn't updated their YZ 2T line in years while manufacturers like KTM and TM haven't stopped. I can't recall the last time I saw a Yamaha 2T while every pickup that flies by has a KTM, usually 2T, or two in the back. The Yamaha franchise in my town has changed hands so many times I've lost track.

[twosmoke595]

yes yamaha hasn't done much for the 2 stroke in a good while BUT they still make a really good bike, that is competitive even after all these years. I still see a ton of yamaha 2 strokes in my area. Plus in Oz dont they kit them stock with the new UFO plastic and gytr goodies? maybe that's why the resurgence. There are however more and more ktm's both 2 and 4, its really cool to see kids flying around the tracks on a 125/150, giving 250 and 450A riders fits

[msmola2002]

the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.

Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.

[Stusmoke]

the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.

Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.

I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.