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Offline thepope

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« on: October 09, 2012, 06:43:35 AM »
Hey fellas! Do you got any tire recommendations for my local mx track?
It consist mostly of loose gravel/sand and rocks..what I use now is some outdated pirelli scorpion extra or something :p only tried that tire so I don't have anything to compare to :)
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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2012, 11:31:59 AM »
There is a lot to consider when selecting tires. Obviously performance and price are at the top of the list. . Also, you are not thinking just about 1 set of tires, but about how many you'll need over the course of a season. Or more accuratly, the equation: Performance/Price*Number of sets=Budget.

Once you figure that out, you have more to consider. Performance is an equation in itself. Have you considered why say a Bridgestone is over $100 while a Metzler is around $60? The difference isn't so much in tread patterns or availability of soft/medium/hard availability. It is not the "name brand" or because Bubba or one of the Ryan's use it. It is the weight.

Tires sit out there on the "unsprung" end of the suspension. ALL weight out there is bad for both handling and the amount of work (Hp) your motor has to turn. Unfortunately, tire weight is not an advertised data point. You'll have to measure those weights yourself (that would be a great website idea! - anyone?).

Finally, you have to select the proper tread pattern/survivability for your terrain. This is also tricky because different tire companies advertise different information. When Kenda or Mitra say it is a Soft tire, is it a soft rubber compound or for soft terrain? Soft terrain uses a HARD compound while hard pack uses a SOFT rubber.  Note that soft rubber wears out faster.

The last thing to consider is tire inflation. This doesn't go so much into what tire to select, but something to consider when evaluating different tires. Some might like it a little softer/harder than another. Pro riders pay a lot of attention to the front tire. Some have an almost insane amount of feel for them and 1 lb of pressure either way will ruin their event.

While this didn't tell you what tire to buy, I hope it help you determine which will work best for you.

One last thing. Loose gravel, depending on the depth could be considered hard pack or soft pack. Sand is usually soft, while rocks also depend on their packing. Do you ride ON them or do you THROW them. ON is hard, while TROWN is soft.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2012, 03:01:33 PM »
Hard compound tires are prone to chunking.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2012, 03:03:52 PM »
Agreed
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« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2012, 05:46:10 PM »
And another thing...

Sorry, I meant to thow this out there as well. If you are a racer, you should also look into any contingency money or support from your local dealer. For instance, Michelin used to have a program call BIB BUCKS where you could get (if I remember correctly) $100 for first, $75 for second and $25 for third. Back in the late '90's, I could count on about $300 a week from contingency money and other support. Of course I spent gob-loads more than that - and churning to earn that probably cost me quite a bit more, but it was fun to be a network geek by day "Pro" ride on the weekends.
 
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2012, 12:03:24 AM »
Michelin M12 front and S12 rear.Never use an M12 rear.
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