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Offline eprovenzano

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KDX 200 or a KTM 200
« on: April 08, 2012, 10:57:05 PM »
I have a friend returning to riding after a 20 year layoff. His last bike was a KX 100.  He has a 6 year old on a 50 (I think its a 50).  Our group took him with us the last time out, (I lent him my utility quad just so he'd have something to ride)  During the ride I had him try out a TTR 250 that's had the exhaust changed, air box opened, and rejetted, a KX125, we even found some one who let him try out their 08 YZF 250, and my KTM 300.   :o

He liked the TTR, loved the elec start.  The KX had been lowered and since he is height challenged, he really liked the bike.  He liked the 250F, but after I explained the potential costs if something went BOOM, he's thinking smoker... Plus as he stated, you can't beat the smell of premix...  He thinks the 300 is perfect for riders like me... you know our kind, a few bricks shy of a load...  way too much bike for him.

He's asked me for suggestions for a solid bike.  We're not going to be spending a ton of money, I'm thinking in the neighborhood of $1,300 to $1,800.  The bikes that come to mind are the KDX 200, 220, and the KTM 200.  I'm a KTM guy, but I'm leaning towards the KDX.  I know he's going to be riding with his son, and at times with the old folks..  ;D  He may "play" on a track from time to time, but nothing serious.  I don't think the demand for the KDX is as strong as for the KTM, and we should be able to get a gently used bike at a good price.  But the KTM 200's are such nice woods weapons.

Please give me your opinions.  thanks
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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2012, 11:01:59 PM »
KTM, KDX would be good but not as good....
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2012, 11:24:19 PM »
Couldn't go wrong with either bike. Both have there ups and downs.
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2012, 11:27:00 PM »
They are both great bikes, I have nothing bad to say about either. But the KDX my friend had was an awesome woods bike and pretty much bullet proof. I can't speak for the KTM though, they are rare up in northern America for some reason... Or at least in CT.
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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2012, 11:43:50 PM »
i would go for the ktm only because of design, kdx look kinda old compared to the katoom, even, they're both great bikes.

i have a friend who had a kdx200 and that bike has tons of power, amazing bottom end power..

each of them would be a good choice!
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 12:05:25 AM »
The KDX is pretty much bullet proof, but in the used bike market is more likely going to need the most work to make ridable in that price range.
The KTM is a solid woods weapon as well, quite a bit more modern design, but also in that price range is gonna have to be a late 90's early 2000s model that will probably be a clapped out turd.
So with the entry budget as low as it is, I would suggest the KDX, due to the ease of finding parts and the lower cost of parts replacement.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2012, 12:27:00 AM »
Quote from: MyckMcClung on April 09, 2012, 07:05:25 AM
With the entry budget as low as it is, I would suggest the KDX, due to the ease of finding parts and the lower cost of parts replacement.

I agree but I don't want some one spending too much money on their 1st bike...  I'd rather they get a solid reliable bike, then they'll get hooked (like us) but when its time for their 2nd bike drop then drop the coin.  As much as I'd like to push him toward a Katoom, I'm thinking a good 1st bike would be the KDX. I'm doing the research and the window shopping as he has no idea what he needs, nor the prices of the bikes.  I'd love to find a KDX 220, but a 200 will be just fine.   He hasn't given me a budget yet, as his wife has not given him the budgetary figure..  He does have her permission, but not the $$$ just yet..   8)  I'm guessing as to the budget, I think I'm on the low side, but I'm also trying to leave room for required items, like tires, grips, hand guards, wheel and linkage bearings, etc.
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Sold 1991 KDX 200... fun play bike
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Sold 1999 YZ125 (son's)
Sold 2001 Yamaha TTL 125 (son's 1st bike)
Sold but never forgotten 1974 Honda Elsinore CR250M
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2012, 12:44:23 AM »
Get him an XR200 if he is short, doesnt want to spend any money, and wants a bike he will never have to put anything but gas in.
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2012, 03:04:57 AM »
Idk, I think the kdx200 is a better starting bike than the xr, is can be both easy and fun to ride. All three of my brothers(14, 16, and 19 years old) who have never rode before were able to ride mine(Now my dads) with no problems. And to give an example of the learning curve, I bought it last year around this time, and now I'm riding 03 yz250 with no issues. xr200 is like riding atc200x, with the same skill level.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 04:05:23 AM »
No... no XR's...  but I am leaning towards recomending the KDX.  Although what he buys will depend on what we find...  as I will also be looking for a KTM too  ;D
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Sold 1991 KDX 200... fun play bike
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Sold 1999 YZ125 (son's)
Sold 2001 Yamaha TTL 125 (son's 1st bike)
Sold but never forgotten 1974 Honda Elsinore CR250M
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2012, 04:15:35 AM »
I owned both - a KDX 200 and a KTM 200.

The KDX is the best pick for the guy ou describe. It's shorter, requires less maintenance, is in his price range, and they are a super woods bike.

The KTM, if it hasn't been detuned some, can be salty for a beginner. They have a strong mid-range punch, much more than a TTR.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2012, 05:18:54 AM »
Just pick up whatever you find  ;D
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2012, 05:25:06 AM »
the kdx's are about as good as you can get for what your buddy needs. they're super mellow, but less heavy than a ttr/xr, but they can run really well with a few bolt on's, they have good power stock, and are very user friendly. I wouldn't go with a ktm, they're detuned race bikes, whether it be an exc or whatever else they're called. Whereas a kdx is a trail bike, that can be used for pretty much anything with a few little mods. every kdx we've had has been bullet proof from day one, whether it be used for mx,woods,flat track
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2012, 06:03:30 AM »
I have an '83 kdx200 and it still surprises me with it's versatility and fun factor
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2012, 09:05:43 AM »
Watercooled KDX's are a little tall in the saddle. Middle aged KTM's are hard to get parts for. As stated above, both are great bikes with the lean towards the KTM for better up to date technology.

I know you said NO XR's but you really can't go wrong there. When you look up Reliability in the dictionary, there is usually a picture of an XR.

Your friend might also consider vintage stuff depending on his perchance for addiction.
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