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Title: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Two Stroke Todd on August 17, 2010, 02:35:38 PM
Just got the word from Sleepy Hollow MX head honcho Jere Swarr that we are gonna try to organize a full blown 2 Stroke National next season at Sleepy Hollow MX in Fredricksburg PA. Tenative date is Sept. 17-18th 2011. We're talkin a big pro purse tons of sponsers, classes for everyone from ages 4 to 80, beginner to pro and not a thumper in site! Two full days of racing! And Jere even mentioned a four stroke bon fire!? We are just now startin to organize and plan for this hopefully huge and yearly event. Any suggestions are welcome!
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Coop on August 17, 2010, 03:47:53 PM
Awesome!
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: burn1986 on August 17, 2010, 04:05:08 PM
Wow, excellent!
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: TxTechRedRider on August 17, 2010, 05:03:20 PM
Did you guys say 4 to 80?  I think by the time I get enough funds together to get there, I might just make the 80 year old cut off.  :D
This is awesome news.  Things are looking up for two strokes.  Honda sucks  :D
Hey I didnt post that last comment and you cant prove it.  ;D
How does one volunteer to help with something like this, especially if it comes to our home state?
Ok, I just noticed that it is only in PA.

Todd
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: TMKIWI on August 17, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Did you guys say 4 to 80?  I think by the time I get enough funds together to get there, I might just make the 80 year old cut off.  :D
This is awesome news.  Things are looking up for two strokes.  Honda sucks  :D
Hey I didnt post that last comment and you cant prove it.  ;D
How does one volunteer to help with something like this, especially if it comes to our home state?
Ok, I just noticed that it is only in PA.

Todd

Good to see you have your sense of humor back  ;D
One thing that does suck is the economy. >:(
I dont know anyone who is flush with cash at the moment. :'(
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Two Stroke Todd on August 17, 2010, 06:33:12 PM
I am so pumped on this! We have tons of time to plan and pull together sponsors and get everything set. Please We really want this thing to be huge. There are many 2 stroke die hards here in D6 but it would be awesome to pull in from  across the country! The whole Sleepy hollow crew  is committed to making this a first class big time event. Again any and all suggestions a openly welcome! I'll check with the boss but he may even welcome phone calls with questions and suggestions. I don't wanna post his # without askin 1st. Please feel free to chime in on this! The larger pool of ideas we have to pull from the better event we can put on!   Thanks ahead for any suggestions. Braaaappp!                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   Two Stroke Todd
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Two Stroke Todd on August 17, 2010, 07:01:45 PM
You can call the boss Jere Swarr at 717-278-8998 or email him at Swarr4@aol.com. Or just post here! Thanks again!
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Hondacrrider on August 18, 2010, 10:00:05 AM
Are you going to contact riders as well about making it out to the event? Such as Ricky Carmichael, or Jeremy Mcgrath? Also, it might help to get any magazine to sponsor you guys, you may get an article in the magazine that would be great free advertising.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: scotty dog on August 18, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
I can see this being HUGE!!
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: motoman465 on August 18, 2010, 01:14:49 PM
Effen Awesome!!!!!  I had my first race at Sleepy Hollow earlier this year...wow...what an awesome track!!!  Jere and his staff put on a top-notch event.  I will have to e-mail Jere and let him know that if I can help I will.  Now that gives me some real motivation to get my YZ490 finished!!! :P
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: ACMX on August 18, 2010, 01:25:20 PM
Any Washingtonians wanna give me a ride to PA next year? :)
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Hondacrrider on August 18, 2010, 04:36:07 PM
Any Washingtonians wanna give me a ride to PA next year? :)
Would a next door Canadian work? I may go next year with a couple friends
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Two Stroke Todd on August 18, 2010, 05:08:24 PM
Yes we do intend to invite some big names. We've talked to the AMA and have been told that they will sanction our event but that we can not call it a "national".  Whatever we can come up with a better name for it then! we already have a few sponsers lined up at least 3 or so but tons more are expected. Only a few days into plannin an event that is over a year off and things just seem to be clicking together. thanks for the positive posts and keep the suggestions comin!
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: opfermanmotors on August 18, 2010, 06:01:50 PM
They going to have a logo with a headless dirtbiker?
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: SwapperMX on August 18, 2010, 10:49:50 PM
We've talked to the AMA and have been told that they will sanction our event but that we can not call it a "national".  Whatever we can come up with a better name for it then!

How about a "World Championship"? A bit better than just a "national" !!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: ACMX on August 18, 2010, 10:59:08 PM
Any Washingtonians wanna give me a ride to PA next year? :)
Would a next door Canadian work? I may go next year with a couple friends

Absolutely, I live in a town called Port Angeles, its actually the biggest town on the peninsula (go figure we call it PA for short) and here we can actually look out over the bluffs and see the British Columbia island Vancouver. So I can literally look out the back window of my house and see Canada!  :P
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Hondacrrider on August 19, 2010, 07:05:53 AM
Any Washingtonians wanna give me a ride to PA next year? :)
Would a next door Canadian work? I may go next year with a couple friends

Absolutely, I live in a town called Port Angeles, its actually the biggest town on the peninsula (go figure we call it PA for short) and here we can actually look out over the bluffs and see the British Columbia island Vancouver. So I can literally look out the back window of my house and see Canada!  :P
Haha, I know where Port Angeles is, I go through Washington quite often through to Oregon. Do you ever come across the border to try out any motocross tracks?
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Super Trucker on August 19, 2010, 11:53:41 AM
That,s great news it,s about time a track steps up. With over a year to plan, setting up a contract with a national bike hauler, to get riders from other states would be a good idea. Because alot of racers race transporters,pu,s,van,s,etc., are a little junky,and would never make the journey into the rugged eastcoast. You could arrange pickup points,at a track near an inerstate,riders drive there unload bikes,etc., and get loaded into a semi. That way the multi pickup fee,the truck would charge wouldn,t apply. On a non race weekend a track would go along with this,for a 10.00 parking fee. Then riders board a motor coach-bus,and haul azz to your track. Have an open practise day before the race. The riders would stay at a local motel. It would be a fun trip for riders, a large hospitality tent would have to be at the track. This plan would get alot of riders from the midwest and the south east,because the drive wouldn,t be that long.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: ACMX on August 20, 2010, 08:14:20 PM
Any Washingtonians wanna give me a ride to PA next year? :)
Would a next door Canadian work? I may go next year with a couple friends

Absolutely, I live in a town called Port Angeles, its actually the biggest town on the peninsula (go figure we call it PA for short) and here we can actually look out over the bluffs and see the British Columbia island Vancouver. So I can literally look out the back window of my house and see Canada!  :P
Haha, I know where Port Angeles is, I go through Washington quite often through to Oregon. Do you ever come across the border to try out any motocross tracks?

No, should I? And have you ever ridden at the track in Port Angeles?
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Hondacrrider on August 20, 2010, 09:37:43 PM
Any Washingtonians wanna give me a ride to PA next year? :)
Would a next door Canadian work? I may go next year with a couple friends

Absolutely, I live in a town called Port Angeles, its actually the biggest town on the peninsula (go figure we call it PA for short) and here we can actually look out over the bluffs and see the British Columbia island Vancouver. So I can literally look out the back window of my house and see Canada!  :P
Haha, I know where Port Angeles is, I go through Washington quite often through to Oregon. Do you ever come across the border to try out any motocross tracks?

No, should I? And have you ever ridden at the track in Port Angeles?
No, I have not, I was just simply wondering if you have. But riding on some tracks in Washington is definitely on my to do list.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: SleeepyHollow on August 20, 2010, 10:52:39 PM
A few words about the 1st annual two-stroke nationwide race.
My name is Jere Swarr , Promoter of Sleepy Hollow. As posted  we have started plans for a 2 stroke only event Sept. 2011 Hopefully the w/end of 17-18th
   I envision a fun weekend for 2 stroke diehards. Some racing , both real and bench, NO FOURSTROKE motorcycles all weekend! Any 2 stroke from a 65 husky to an 2011 KTM     welcome. Race classes for everybody.Hopefully the smell of race gas and bean oil will linger in the Hollow all weekend, just like the Nationals in the 70's.  We are just getting started, it is over a year off, but reception has been good and we are excited. Personally I've been around MX since  72, Raced from '74-'78. Had a private track since '73 bought Sleepy Hollow in 2002. Yes,I wasn't born yesterday.
   Track website is www.sleepymx.com (http://www.sleepymx.com). the track is Vintage freindly, with natural terrain and good dirt.  You can check videos on You Tube. just use "Sleepy Hollow Motocross" as a search phrase.    Thanks everybody for your interest. Stay Tuned
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: JohnN on August 21, 2010, 05:05:50 AM
A few words about the 1st annual two-stroke nationwide race.
My name is Jere Swarr , Promoter of Sleepy Hollow. As posted  we have started plans for a 2 stroke only event Sept. 2011 Hopefully the w/end of 17-18th
   I envision a fun weekend for 2 stroke diehards. Some racing , both real and bench, NO FOURSTROKE motorcycles all weekend! Any 2 stroke from a 65 husky to an 2011 KTM     welcome. Race classes for everybody.Hopefully the smell of race gas and bean oil will linger in the Hollow all weekend, just like the Nationals in the 70's.  We are just getting started, it is over a year off, but reception has been good and we are excited. Personally I've been around MX since  72, Raced from '74-'78. Had a private track since '73 bought Sleepy Hollow in 2002. Yes,I wasn't born yesterday.
   Track website is www.sleepymx.com (http://www.sleepymx.com). the track is Vintage freindly, with natural terrain and good dirt.  You can check videos on You Tube. just use "Sleepy Hollow Motocross" as a search phrase.    Thanks everybody for your interest. Stay Tuned

Jere... first welcome to the forum!!

I have raced at Sleepy Hollow before, although it's been a while (1980!) it was a cool track back then and I'm sure that with your experience it's an even better track now.

Please let me know what I can do to help promote this event. While it's still a year away, we can continue to get folks excited about the event. Plus of course I'll come out for the event to cover it for Two Stroke Motocross.

I will contact you so we can begin a dialog and get some real interest built up for this event.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: 125mx.com on August 22, 2010, 07:47:40 AM
Is there anyway we can secure the use of machines, either renting from dealers, teams or personally loaning them ?

I would like to bring two guys who race 125's, we would need a YZ and a KTM ideally. We could bring our cylinders and stuff like that, but trying to get bikes back and fourth would make it a non-event for us.

Both guys have won National titles and would love to mix it up a touch out in the USA
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: SleeepyHollow on August 22, 2010, 01:25:30 PM
   I have a friend here in Pa who can haul up to 24 dirt bikes. He has a double deck "stacker" coupled with a huge motorhome. He hauls bikes to wherever. People fly in, are picked up and taken to the riding area, and there ready to go our their own bikes and gear. I have been on three trips, they are amazing.  He goes to California, Colorado, Arizonia, Daytona, sturgis, basically anywhere. This may offer some possiblities for transportation to Sleepy. Check his website; www.tralridewith.us (http://www.tralridewith.us)
   He actually is a major Sponsor of Sleepy Hollow and has been around bikes,, well since birth.  He also owns a Honda dealership. We have a couple long time KTM dealers in the area. We  also have a Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki dealer 10 minutes from the track who is into MX and dirt in general.

Jere Swarr
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: SwapperMX on August 22, 2010, 02:43:39 PM
Hey Jere,

Were you directly replying to 125MX in your last post? He runs the 2 stroke series in the UK, and is keen to bring in some international riders to mix things up. This would really add another dimension. A two stroke race with the best the world has to offer. Take the event to another level. We need to make this happen. This event is gathering momentum by the minute, and is still a year away.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: SleeepyHollow on August 22, 2010, 03:53:44 PM
   To 125mx,
 I had no idea we were garnering international interest. I am flattered.
It's over a year away and anything is possible. Who's to say we can't get some bikes.
If there is a will, there is a way.

Jere
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Sheriff on August 23, 2010, 06:52:31 AM
Hello guys,
this is my first post here. I just wanted to say that I'm really excited to hear about this event. If I can gather a few people to make the trip and represent Canada, I'll be there for sure!

I work at MotocrossQuebec.ca, and am the one who organized the TwoStroke Fest back in June (you can see a recap of the event on the TSM front page). If you need help promoting the event north of the border, let me know, I'll post up your PRs.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Super Trucker on August 23, 2010, 09:32:25 AM
125MX is involved COOL, any thought of making a series. Millville has a 9 rd. super series,Red Bud has local races on the pro track,SunsetRidge, south of RockFord, is a great flowing track,the owner helped Red Bud track and learned alot about track prep,Mt.Carroll is close to Rockord IL. also, nicknamed mini RedBud. A 2 month long series would be good,a rider could take a leave of absence from work and have a 2 month dream season. That bike hauler you know sounds great, other haulers will be needed,www.haulbikes.com is prob. the largest, I see them all over the country. I would stick with co.s that are bike specialist, USship might have cheaper rates, but the drivers trailer may not be setup correctly and bike could be damaged. If you have a club member that,s in the trucking industry, they could help you put it together.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: CCOADY454 on August 23, 2010, 09:59:41 AM
If this gathers enough interest to make a series out of it, I could talk to my local track owner about setting a race to run along with it.  Illinois, being right in the middle of the US, makes it more accessible.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Super Trucker on August 23, 2010, 10:51:24 AM
What st. r you in CCOADY 454, I,m in Green Bay Wisconsin  It may seem like alot to set all this up, but it can be done. I talked to a tour bus driver for a band wed. night at the motel, for  2 hours. If  your favorite band can live on a bus for 9 months, I think  a mx racer can live on the go also. I talked to a couple from Autralia , they saved there money and  there touring the USA and Canada  for 38 weeks, your allowed 26 weeks in the USA,but if you go to Canada and get your passport stamped your good for 26 more weeks,I believe.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: CCOADY454 on August 23, 2010, 11:14:50 AM
What st. r you in CCOADY 454, I,m in Green Bay Wisconsin  It may seem like alot to set all this up, but it can be done. I talked to a tour bus driver for a band wed. night at the motel, for  2 hours. If  your favorite band can live on a bus for 9 months, I think  a mx racer can live on the go also. I talked to a couple from Autralia , they saved there money and  there touring the USA and Canada  for 38 weeks, your allowed 26 weeks in the USA,but if you go to Canada and get your passport stamped your good for 26 more weeks,I believe.
Central Illinois.

http://www.southforkdirtriders.com/ (http://www.southforkdirtriders.com/)
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Super Trucker on August 23, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
I like the expert payouts at your track 454. I just threw the series idea out there, I,m not trying to take anything away from your SleepyHollow track, I know it,s alot of work. I worked at my local track 2 days and on race day pulled 30 bikes out of  18in. of thick mud in practice,I got stuck working-flagging the muddiest section, it was alot of fun though. The 85 and 125,s went out for practise when no one else wanted to, the little kids are funny they get it burried then turn there head looking at you,with there hands up.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: 125mx.com on August 24, 2010, 12:12:53 AM
   To 125mx,
 I had no idea we were garnering international interest. I am flattered.
It's over a year away and anything is possible. Who's to say we can't get some bikes.
If there is a will, there is a way.

Jere

From small acorns great Oaks grow !

I have proven that if an event is offerd riders will come, I worked my butt off over here trying to prove to all the lemmings that the 2st was far from dead, hey presto, we now have three 2st series on offer, next year looks like adding another National Federation (BSMA) with a sole 125cc class.

I have been watching what goes on in the US for sometime, just waiting for the 'catalyst' to spark life into the 2st scene, there ARE plenty of riders still wanting to race their 2st but find it offensive to be put in a class that gives their compeditor twice the capacity. (I dont think that happens in any other motorsport, could be wrong ?) Things are looking good for the humble 2st esspecially with the economic climate !  Strike while the irons hot I say, publicise and promote very well and I'm sure it will be a success.

Our riders have started to ask local clubs / promoters that they want a 2st class or there's nothing at the event for them, and they dont enter, chosing to go practice instead, clubs are now suffering from low entries and (at last) starting to offer something for a 2st racer, soon they will all have a 2st class(s)  (We hope)

John knows how much as gone on here in the UK, and has helped greatly with this site its like free promotion. Thanks John for the help and if we can get that little bit of help with machinery we will get two or more riders out there to your event.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Super Trucker on August 24, 2010, 03:18:01 PM
Hey 125mx.com I google 125mx in 06, your site popped up and been following it since. You put a link for twostrokemotocross.com actually the old name 2-strokemilita.com. and here I am. In  America we want a 2-st. series and all it,s been so far is rumors. I thought we were close this year, there was  a track in Ilinois having a race, with other dates to be listed and nothing happened. Millville and RedBUD would  very good choice to start the fire. Example RedBud  had races the last 2 weekends, last sat. was the RacerX vet race. That,s would be a perfect place to start with another series, but limited classes  125 expert, 125 b , 125 c, 125-25 plus,30 plus,40 plus, 125 jr. Everyone including hot chicks miss the sound of 125,s on the start and around the track, 250,s sound good but no where as good as a 125.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Hondacrrider on August 24, 2010, 05:20:00 PM
Oh man, the idea of a 125 only class makes me so excited!
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Super Trucker on October 02, 2010, 11:19:31 AM
I was wondering what the latest news on the 2-st. series is. In the fall is the time to secure sponsors, for a series next year. At round 3 of the RacerX vet series at www.aztalancycle.com (http://www.aztalancycle.com), had a vet 35a 125 class on there own,not part of the racer x series. They had severe weather in the area, and still had 28 riders sign up, about 4 riders didn,t race.
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: miedosoracing on October 03, 2010, 05:55:22 AM
Hey 125mx.com I google 125mx in 06, your site popped up and been following it since. You put a link for twostrokemotocross.com actually the old name 2-strokemilita.com. and here I am. In  America we want a 2-st. series and all it,s been so far is rumors. I thought we were close this year, there was  a track in Ilinois having a race, with other dates to be listed and nothing happened. Millville and RedBUD would  very good choice to start the fire. Example RedBud  had races the last 2 weekends, last sat. was the RacerX vet race. That,s would be a perfect place to start with another series, but limited classes  125 expert, 125 b , 125 c, 125-25 plus,30 plus,40 plus, 125 jr. Everyone including hot chicks miss the sound of 125,s on the start and around the track, 250,s sound good but no where as good as a 125.
About that Illinois race...  something did happen, but it wasn't good.  I passed out fliers at the Dallas supercross. Had everything all planned and set, for the weekend between Red Bud and Millville, so big riders would have a place to go inbetween and make a ton of money.  That Monday, I got a call from the track owner, saying the race was cancelled.  It is an AMA sanctioned track.  I was threatened via email to shut up from someone considered "the internet attack dog."  And many other things happened so I had to walk away. So that is why things have hard times moving in the US.  Any type of competition, you get squashed one way or another.  Local races etc that are 2 stroke friendly should be ok. But when you are planning on competing with the big guys, not so much...
Title: Re: 2 Stroke National
Post by: Super Trucker on October 03, 2010, 11:26:20 AM
That,s too bad what happened to your ILinois race. Your right the 2-st. races need to start at the local level. The local tracks are hurting,with the low turnouts in the last 6 years. I think the right local track would rent the track for a weekend for 1,500.00, that,s only 150 riders paying 10.00 each at the gate. You have alot of other fees,insurance,medic-ambulance,ama, fuel,wood chips,etc. I talked to the president at my local track about a 2-st. only race, there,s a bunch of land owners that own the tracks property,they can be difficult,and it would have to be ama sanctioned race,to have insurance. The tracks layout is great,up and down hills everywhere,but the track needs tons of wood chips mixed in with the hard pack clay,and getting club members to work is difficult. To get 700 plus riders  I think a 2-st. race would have to focus on fun to get full gates. There,s alot of  96 to 04 2-st. out there, so classes like 125 96 to 04 125 beginner, c class, and vet 125 beginner, c class, b class would be full gates. With the revenue from classes like these, you could hv. 200 % payout, 300.00 to 1st in each 125 a-expert moto bonus,plus 100.00 holeshot,that should get 30 or 40 on the gate.