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Offline mxracer239

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« on: February 02, 2013, 12:20:44 AM »
Just wondering if 2 strokes are allowed in arenacross?
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 12:29:43 AM »
yes
http://www.arenacross.com/registration.aspx?id=2147488881

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Approved Homologated Equipment
Motorcyle   AX and Lites Classes
Honda   2009-2013 CRF 250R
Kawasaki   2009-2013 KX250F
KTM   2009-2013 250 SXF
Suzuki   2009-2013 RMZ 250
Yamaha   2008-2010 YZ 125
Yamaha   2009-2013 YZ 250F

that is for the pro stuff anyways. At an amateur level, absolutely.


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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 12:48:10 AM »
so no 250 2 strokes
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 02:17:49 AM »
arenacross is all 250F at the pro level, and is AMA - like the sx and nationals. So not likely to be different!
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 01:13:24 AM »
so no 250 2 strokes

only the YZ125 and only up to 2010
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aaahhhhh yes, I remember the good old days

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 01:42:28 AM »
the day the AMA lets 250 two strokes onto the same gate as 250Fs is the day the taliban are invited to the presidents bachelour party.

I don't know which I would rather see actually...
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 01:51:21 AM »
the day the AMA lets 250 two strokes onto the same gate as 250Fs is the day the taliban are invited to the presidents bachelour party.

I don't know which I would rather see actually...

Lol!
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 10:31:58 AM »
Areanacross rules are the same as Supercross and Nationals. They both use AMA Pro Racing's 2013 rule book with adendums for their sections. Homologation is the same.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 03:09:24 PM »
If you have been to an Arenacross lately, you'd also know that a 125 stands absolutely NO CHANCE of making it around the track safely, let alone being competitive.  I'm a two-stroke guy to the bone, but there is NO WAY a 125 is:

1. staying on top of those whoops
2. triple-tripling the rhythm straight (double-double-double and you won't make the main)
3. Hitting the finish booter.

It would take a hot-rodded 150cc to make a dent, with a 120lb rider like McDade.

I've said it a million times, the only chance any two-stroke stands at this point, indoors, with the current rules is a 250SX KTM in the 450 class, at Toronto (small shitty track, small rider turn out)
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« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 02:13:52 AM »
I raced amateur day at the Cedar Park, tx round and a 125 is perfectly capable of being competitive in arenacross. There are 85s that do the triple triple sections and the finish line! Seat bounce and a little throttle and you get over anything. The woops are easier to do on a 2stroke than a 4 because they are lighter.
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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 02:12:25 PM »
So you are comparing hitting the booter on amateur day on a 125 to being competitive in the pro glass and banging bars with Zack Ames, McDade, Bowers and company?

Nice comparison, but no comparison.  A 125 is completely outmatched in that little arena.  Imagine someone coming up on your inside and stalling just a little bit of your momentum...  stopping other peoples momentum is what Arenacross is all about. That's 90% of the racing.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 07:36:42 PM »
The track is the exact same on pro day as it is on amateur day. You don't need a ton of power in arenacross. A bike that handles good is the best thing. A 125 with low to mid porting is plenty capable in pro class. I was at an arenacross race once were Sean Hackley placed 3rd on a borrowed bone stock yz 125 and it was against guys that race the arenacross and supercross lites pro classes, like matt boni and lance Vincent
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