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Title: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: streaks383 on September 07, 2011, 08:27:06 PM
He talks about it like a circus side show.

James Stewart's New Ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KciAC0Ief4w#ws)
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: scotty dog on September 08, 2011, 01:22:14 AM
What a wanker! Ah hes only a part timer with too much money anyway, hes gunnaget flogged by CR, RV n RD next sx season anyway :-X
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: SwapperMX on September 08, 2011, 02:48:31 AM
Yeah but how wide open is he, and so early on the throttle in the turns. The video was spoiled by the trash he talks at the end. Going nowhere on a two stroke. When the video started I thought that this could be start of me once again being a Stewart fan, on the back of a vid of him riding a two stroke for a couple of minutes. Then he opened his mouth, and now I dislike him even more.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: overthebars on September 08, 2011, 04:13:29 AM
His father is a real motocross fan and led jr to where he is now. Now that jr is in control of his own stuff he does nothing more then just trash talk allot without good results in the sport. The money got to his head....
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: chump6784 on September 08, 2011, 04:22:45 AM
The stupid part about it is he is comparing what looks like a bone stock 250 to his factory 450. He should have jumped on malcoms 250f after the yz, then he would have seen holding it open and going nowhere
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 08, 2011, 08:12:20 AM
Yeah what would he know...he's only the best rider in the world.

Sweet video. He can still fly on a smoker.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Coop on September 08, 2011, 08:35:12 AM
This is already posted in the videos section.

I watched it with the sound off (as I do most videos) and thought it was cool. I didn't even realize he was talking trash about two strokes haha.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Tharrell on September 08, 2011, 09:59:19 AM
I have a buddy that just built an AF500 Honda to rival anything the factory could produce.
I'd like to see him try to ride it.
It would be the end of him I'm sure.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/TonyHarrell/CR500894.jpg)
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(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/TonyHarrell/CR500890.jpg)
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff387/TonyHarrell/CR500884.jpg)
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: pushdogg on September 08, 2011, 12:39:44 PM
even when he is on a 450 they blow past him....what a pampas ass.....and i would like to say what a spoiled sport he is.....didnt finish the season then skipped on outdoor.....he is such a sellout in so many aspects!
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: burn1986 on September 08, 2011, 12:50:35 PM
Wow, Tharrell, that bike is totally sweet! If only these were allowed to race against the 450s.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: overthebars on September 08, 2011, 03:19:17 PM
Yeah what would he know...he's only the best rider in the world.

Sweet video. He can still fly on a smoker.
What have u been smoking? He still has a long way to beat the GOAT, The king and The Legend on winning races.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: SwapperMX on September 08, 2011, 06:10:33 PM
Yeah, I gotta have some input on the photos Tharrell just posted.

GOD DAMN !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dont like saying bikes are sexy, but that thing is SEXY !!!!!!!!!


 :o      :o      :o      :o
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 08, 2011, 06:50:58 PM
What have u been smoking? He still has a long way to beat the GOAT, The king and The Legend on winning races.

Are you serious? Im not even a fan and I know James has more talent than anyone....RC says it himself. He's just distracted now.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: rbigair40 on September 08, 2011, 06:54:27 PM
What have u been smoking? He still has a long way to beat the GOAT, The king and The Legend on winning races.

Are you serious? Im not even a fan and I know James has more talent than anyone....RC says it himself. He's just distracted now.
some one forgot to tell Events that the last time he raced !!!!! And he is the second African American champ GL is the first
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 08, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
I said "best rider" meaning "most talent". I never said most race wins. I know he gets beat....look at him now he sucks. BUT he still has the talent to destroy everyone like he's done his entire career, the guy just doesnt want it now I guess.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: rbigair40 on September 08, 2011, 07:24:27 PM
you have bumped your head !!!!
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: ACMX on September 08, 2011, 10:25:59 PM
Yeah what would he know...he's only the best rider in the world.

Sweet video. He can still fly on a smoker.
HA... Yeah lets line him up next to any of the top 3 in the nationals this year!
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 09, 2011, 09:10:44 AM
HA... Yeah lets line him up next to any of the top 3 in the nationals this year!

I agree (post 14). He would get thrown out the door right now. But I know you remember what he was doing just a few years ago.... :P

Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: ford832 on September 09, 2011, 09:22:47 AM
I've never liked Bubbles but you can't take anything away from his abilities.Does anyone else remember when he was riding 2t's because Kawi never had a 4t offering?I do.Few could have done that.RC had the drive,ambition and work ethic like few others but I'd say Stewart is the most talented rider I've ever seen.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: streaks383 on September 09, 2011, 11:25:02 AM
Who is this Stewart?  The red haired kid? The Aussie? The Nice young man on the yellow bike? Is he that crazy kid with the long hair who loves the rev limiter?  If not I am having trouble placing him,  Is he the short guy who won all those races and was a classy guy, no... no.. That was Ricky.  Hmmm oh well
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: miedosoracing on September 09, 2011, 12:37:56 PM
Sorry guys, but according to Stewart everyone except the top 5 guys in the sport should all but quit racing. Straight from his mouth.  He would still beat everyone except POSSIBLY the top 5 guys on a factory YZ250.  Seriously, I can't believe all these posts I keep seeing.  He did very well on the KX250 against all the 450F's.  If my memory is correct he was sometimes 20+ seconds ahead of #3 rider.  Now, the top 5 guys, maybe, they have really stepped it up.  But If Shorty is getting 6thish, on a bike that is probably almost identical as the 250 2 stroke in power output. Then James would do just fine on the 250 2 stroke, factory that is.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: overthebars on September 09, 2011, 02:08:13 PM
I said "best rider" meaning "most talent". I never said most race wins. I know he gets beat....look at him now he sucks. BUT he still has the talent to destroy everyone like he's done his entire career, the guy just doesnt want it now I guess.
Exactly, you said best rider, not most talented. Best riders are on top, being talented alone does not get you anywhere.

He IS the most talented but i don't know what the hell he is doing with all that talent at the moment, he sure aint exploiting it. Let's hope he put's it back togeather and writes history being the best motocross rider ever, but until he does that there are riders with more red plates and race wins then him.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Tharrell on September 10, 2011, 05:32:05 AM
From a well respected "professor" as told to me, "He's on the hold on and pray program".
No special abilities in my opinion, just a total lack of regard for his or other riders welfare.
Stupid.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: xandyx on September 10, 2011, 06:16:25 AM
stewart gotta figure that motocross is not "bubba's world". He got so sold out that he's talking too much!

The bike's not slow, and you can see that he is not going slow. At 2.25min, i guess, i saw one of the best whips i've seen.. Maybe he got lazy riding the factory 4t, and now that he jumps agains to a stock 2t, he and his brother say that bullsh*t! "man, you lost a bit of your skills!!!"

Damn, money talks louder that anything else!
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 10, 2011, 07:15:55 AM
Exactly, you said best rider, not most talented. Best riders are on top, being talented alone does not get you anywhere.

No, I said best rider which means most talent. Being the most talented does not mean you will always be on top, you still gotta have it mentally and physically to put talent to full use. His mind isnt in the same place it was in 2007.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: oldermxr on September 10, 2011, 11:08:01 AM
Stewart is an amazing rider/racer he's just distracted right now if he would race a full blown 250 2 stroke against the 450's he would without a doubt smoke em! or even if he would do the same thing on a full blown 125 2 stroke against the 250f's he would smoke them too! When he was on a 125 he was linear fast no one could even remotely come close to staying with him. He made too big of a jump going from a 125 2 stroke to a 450 four stroke. There is two totally differant riding styles between the two and in my oppinion he was trying to ride his 450 like he rode his 125 WIDE OPEN and no way can you do that on a 450 theres alot of throttle control and finese to riding a 450 and riding one fast and under control at the same time. I have heard that he is going to race the 2012 outdoor nationals even if he has to do it out of his own pocket. So only time will tell if he does that if he does I think we'll see a differant JS7 that we have seen of late. I myself hope that he does come back to the outdoor nationals.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: JE97 on September 10, 2011, 12:54:38 PM
I would bet that he is just insecure, and is easily bought. I KNOW he loves riding that 250. I KNOW he knows how fast they are.. If he could get out of his contract, and buy a box van and a yz 250 and race by himself for the FUN of it like he used to, I would bet he would..
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: overthebars on September 10, 2011, 03:05:53 PM
Exactly, you said best rider, not most talented. Best riders are on top, being talented alone does not get you anywhere.

No, I said best rider which means most talent. Being the most talented does not mean you will always be on top, you still gotta have it mentally and physically to put talent to full use. His mind isnt in the same place it was in 2007.
We have different interpretations on 'the best' rider then. I sure hope he comes back to the top rider he used to be.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: rbigair40 on September 10, 2011, 06:44:11 PM
He said its like riding a pit bike  :P he must have some bad pit bikes
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: pushdogg on September 10, 2011, 10:08:12 PM
Exactly, you said best rider, not most talented. Best riders are on top, being talented alone does not get you anywhere.

No, I said best rider which means most talent. Being the most talented does not mean you will always be on top, you still gotta have it mentally and physically to put talent to full use. His mind isnt in the same place it was in 2007.

nor will it ever be.......james stewart is stuck up and "in bad taste" in all aspects of his racing and competition, he can be good....he can be the most talented....but he doesnt win anything....and when he does he is a jackass about it. talent means little when you are "dennis rodman" about things...look at that jerk......he is washed up and broken......which is the future of stewart if he lets the fame continue to get to his head. snook i think you are sooooo wrong in so many ways that it isnt funny anymore....james stewart(better yet, the attitude) is the downfall of the sport.....really he is turning off-road racing into F-1.....and only the rich folks can even hope to compete....even more-so...i feel like this is an american sport.....and it doesnt feel american anymore:(
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 11, 2011, 11:26:27 AM
snook i think you are sooooo wrong in so many ways that it isnt funny anymore....

 lol why? Because I think James Stewart is one of the most talented riders ever? So does 3 million other people.

Its an opinion pushdogg, which doesnt nesessarily make it a fact. I think James' accomplishments speak for themselves. Anyone coming off a works 450 and getting on a stock 250 2t is going to think its slow, why is this such a debate here?

He said its like riding a pit bike  :P he must have some bad pit bikes

lol I know right. His pit bikes must be breathing fire
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: factoryX on September 11, 2011, 12:24:04 PM
Most of his accomplishments were made on a 2 stroke. Seems to me once things started switching over he started having problems. But hey, you know more than the rest of us at tsm, right Snook?
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: overthebars on September 11, 2011, 02:24:18 PM
Most of his accomplishments were made on a 2 stroke. Seems to me once things started switching over he started having problems. But hey, you know more than the rest of us at tsm, right Snook?
As he says :
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Its an opinion pushdogg, which doesnt nesessarily make it a fact
He does not claim to know i all he just speaks his opinion.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: TMKIWI on September 11, 2011, 03:11:07 PM
As he says :
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Its an opinion pushdogg, which doesnt nesessarily make it a fact
He does not claim to know i all he just speaks his opinion.

x2
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 11, 2011, 05:23:27 PM
Most of his accomplishments were made on a 2 stroke. Seems to me once things started switching over he started having problems. But hey, you know more than the rest of us at tsm, right Snook?

Sorry if I come off as a know it all to you factoryX...Ill try to work on that. I agree most of his accomplishments were made on a 2 stroke, the way he destroyed a field of 250f's in 2004 could never be done today by any of our lites riders IMO. His 24-0 outside on a 450 was pretty impressive as well. When that guy was on he was amazing.

As he says :
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Its an opinion pushdogg, which doesnt nesessarily make it a fact
He does not claim to know i all he just speaks his opinion.

x2

Thanks guys
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Joe III on September 11, 2011, 07:34:11 PM
Who was that tongue tied hair lip giving his dumb a** opinions also? Sounded like he was on some sort of ADD meds. The way Stewart was riding that YZ it didn't sound like he was wringing out much. I'm in full agreement with the subject line.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: TotalNZ on September 11, 2011, 11:58:10 PM
When i hear 2 top pro's like Stewart and Carmicheal commenting after riding a 250 2t for the first time in awhile, saying how far the 450's have come and how good they are now i tend to listen and believe.
Just because Stewart is a bit of an ass and he's not saying what you want to hear, doesn't mean he's wrong.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: maicoman009 on September 12, 2011, 02:06:53 AM
What have u been smoking? He still has a long way to beat the GOAT, The king and The Legend on winning races.

Are you serious? Im not even a fan and I know James has more talent than anyone....RC says it himself. He's just distracted now.
Stewart would'nt make a pimple on RC's ass! Rickys just a nice guy & a true professional unlike bubbles stewart! IMO He's a piece crap not to mention stupid impersonating a police officer!
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: maicoman009 on September 12, 2011, 02:51:20 AM
When i hear 2 top pro's like Stewart and Carmicheal commenting after riding a 250 2t for the first time in awhile, saying how far the 450's have come and how good they are now i tend to listen and believe.
Just because Stewart is a bit of an ass and he's not saying what you want to hear, doesn't mean he's wrong.
They get paid to say such things! They're not going to bite the hands that feed them i.e. Suzuki,Yamaha...I'd love to see bubbles scrub a "Service Honda" built Kawasaki KX-500.And to hear him complain about arm pump & then say how slow he was going tells me how dumb he really is not to mention Malcom saying the 250 2t has no low end @ all. They're just a couple of dumb rich kids. Not RC but the Stewart brutha's are dumb & James seems to be lazy as of late skipping out on the 2011 MX series!
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: overthebars on September 12, 2011, 05:33:18 AM
It's funny how the selfproclaimed 'fastest man on the planet' only got a few race wins in a whole season. The most funny part was when he was telling his side of the story on the blockpass incident, dressed like the perfect son in law. He is great at putting up a show but his lack of acting skills make it to transparant.  :D
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: SwapperMX on September 12, 2011, 06:27:29 AM
When i hear 2 top pro's like Stewart and Carmicheal commenting after riding a 250 2t for the first time in awhile, saying how far the 450's have come and how good they are now i tend to listen and believe.
Just because Stewart is a bit of an ass and he's not saying what you want to hear, doesn't mean he's wrong.
They get paid to say such things! They're not going to bite the hands that feed them i.e. Suzuki,Yamaha...I'd love to see bubbles scrub a "Service Honda" built Kawasaki KX-500.And to hear him complain about arm pump & then say how slow he was going tells me how dumb he really is not to mention Malcom saying the 250 2t has no low end @ all. They're just a couple of dumb rich kids. Not RC but the Stewart brutha's are dumb & James seems to be lazy as of late skipping out on the 2011 MX series!

You have to remember Maicoman that the younger generation that is a major part of the sport will eat up the marketing spew that the top riders are all so good at regurgitating. They dont think twice about what gets said, and just play sheep. That is why the majority of riders made the transition to four stroke. Only slowly are the smart ones coming back. And while that same four stroke message continues to being spewed out, many riders will continue to eat it up. Looks like TotalNZ is unfortunately one of those said Sheep.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 12, 2011, 01:08:27 PM
Only slowly are the smart ones coming back. And while that same four stroke message continues to being spewed out, many riders will continue to eat it up. Looks like TotalNZ is unfortunately one of those said Sheep.

Can you list a few of the names and national numbers of said smart ones?  I havent head of anyone...atleast not at the that level. Per the current rules they would have to be crazy! Its totally different for locals and woods guys.

They get paid to say such things! They're not going to bite the hands that feed them i.e. Suzuki,Yamaha...I'd love to see bubbles scrub a "Service Honda" built Kawasaki KX-500.And to hear him complain about arm pump & then say how slow he was going tells me how dumb he really is not to mention Malcom saying the 250 2t has no low end @ all. They're just a couple of dumb rich kids. Not RC but the Stewart brutha's are dumb & James seems to be lazy as of late skipping out on the 2011 MX series!

Its funny how Im the know-it-all but some of you guys think you know more about racing than JS or RC. Whenever they put your beloved 2 stroke down vs a 4 stroke they are either payed to do so, or just wrong. Now thats some cool aid for you...

Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Tharrell on September 12, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
With all the channels I have can you believe nothing interesting was on tv last night?
Anyway, I ended up watching a couple of Bubbas World.
The only chance he has is if he listens to Johnny Omara his new trainer.
He wouldn't listen to Gary Bailey, maybe he will listen now.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: monsteryz125 on September 12, 2011, 03:54:31 PM
He didnt listen to aldon baker and now baker's enjoying a championship with villopoto
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: maicoman009 on September 13, 2011, 05:08:17 PM
When i hear 2 top pro's like Stewart and Carmicheal commenting after riding a 250 2t for the first time in awhile, saying how far the 450's have come and how good they are now i tend to listen and believe.
Just because Stewart is a bit of an ass and he's not saying what you want to hear, doesn't mean he's wrong.
They get paid to say such things! They're not going to bite the hands that feed them i.e. Suzuki,Yamaha...I'd love to see bubbles scrub a "Service Honda" built Kawasaki KX-500.And to hear him complain about arm pump & then say how slow he was going tells me how dumb he really is not to mention Malcom saying the 250 2t has no low end @ all. They're just a couple of dumb rich kids. Not RC but the Stewart brutha's are dumb & James seems to be lazy as of late skipping out on the 2011 MX series!

You have to remember Maicoman that the younger generation that is a major part of the sport will eat up the marketing spew that the top riders are all so good at regurgitating. They dont think twice about what gets said, and just play sheep. That is why the majority of riders made the transition to four stroke. Only slowly are the smart ones coming back. And while that same four stroke message continues to being spewed out, many riders will continue to eat it up. Looks like TotalNZ is unfortunately one of those said Sheep.
I agree with that SwapperMX. The younger generation always seems to eat all of the marketing spew! That is so unfortunate because there are so many great young MX & SX riders that would WIN races on factory 2-strokes if they just did'nt follow the status quo of the factories & top riders! Ken Roczen & Tony Cairoli are great examples IMO & I would love to see one of those guys (or both) do a full season on a 2-stroke!
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: SwapperMX on September 13, 2011, 07:59:09 PM
Only slowly are the smart ones coming back. And while that same four stroke message continues to being spewed out, many riders will continue to eat it up. Looks like TotalNZ is unfortunately one of those said Sheep.

Can you list a few of the names and national numbers of said smart ones?  I havent head of anyone...atleast not at the that level. Per the current rules they would have to be crazy! Its totally different for locals and woods guys.


?? ?? ?? ?? ??

Re-read what I wrote. I was talking about the general buying public and the smart ones slowly going back to riding two strokes. The pro riders were referenced because it is they that spew the marketing hype for the four strokes, and they are paid to do so. Don't know where you got the pro riders going back to ride two strokes from ?? 

Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: snook620 on September 13, 2011, 08:44:14 PM
I did but I guess I mis-understood.

You have to remember Maicoman that the younger generation that is a major part of the sport will eat up the marketing spew that the top riders are all so good at regurgitating. They dont think twice about what gets said, and just play sheep. That is why the majority of riders made the transition to four stroke. Only slowly are the smart ones coming back. And while that same four stroke message continues to being spewed out, many riders will continue to eat it up. Looks like TotalNZ is unfortunately one of those said Sheep.

I guess the 'top riders' in the first line threw me off... I appoligize.  ;D
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Mountain Goat on September 13, 2011, 10:08:53 PM
Bubba is going so "slow" in that video he overjumps some of the jumps and has to lock up the rear wheel going into a corner at least once.  Maybe the ground looks slow to him because he isn't riding something that has the gyroscopic mass of a locomotive.

Every square inch of graphics are worn off it.  It's obviously the clapped-out playbike guests get to ride, or it's the clapped-out playbike that the Stewarts love to ride.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Premixed on September 14, 2011, 08:04:06 PM
let him talk.  let him smile.  listen to him. smile back at him.

then tune in to 2012 with said smile, watch him stay ON his bike, and get consistent 5th-8th place finishes at most of the supercrosses because he has no heart and no fitness. but let him blame his Yamaha and social distractions.

canard, villo, reed and ill throw in a ktm mounted dungey as a wild-card, will all shit on him.

and i was born and raised in central florida, and came up racing at the same shitty dade city mx track as he did, along with ferry, carmichael, ron tichenor, so you'd think i'd be the biggest bubbles fan in the stable.  nope. 
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: eprovenzano on September 15, 2011, 10:40:03 AM
let him talk.  let him smile.  listen to him. smile back at him.

then tune in to 2012 with said smile, watch him stay ON his bike, and get consistent 5th-8th place finishes at most of the supercrosses because he has no heart and no fitness. but let him blame his Yamaha and social distractions.

canard, villo, reed and ill throw in a ktm mounted dungey as a wild-card, will all shit on him.


I agree, he's lost his motovation, not to mention everyone listed above is faster. He may set the "fastest" lap, but that does not win races.  You need to say upright and finish to win races.
Title: Re: So now I hate Stewart even more.
Post by: Premixed on September 15, 2011, 04:34:55 PM
its the youtube generation in full effect.  no one cares about the 20 lap race win let alone the championship anymore.  all they care about is the trickest triple-double-triple-quad line down one straightaway on one lap.  to the general populus, THAT dictates who the "best" rider is. 

i think this is a result of children being raised in front of computer screens watching :22 second videos all day long. no one can seem to focus on anything for longer than 20 seconds, which gets you about 1/3 of the way around a track.

sad thing is, this chalks up to marketability and product sales, which is why guys like him will ALWAYS have multimillion dollar contracts with energy drink companies and shoe manufacturers.  these guys dont need factory motorcycle support anymore.  2012 is going to show that more than ever with Hart&Huntington, 22motorsports, and Joe Gibbs Racing.