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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2012, 12:30:10 AM »
Thanks Jeram. I'd wager that oxidised titanium with the dye would be not only be able to cover alot more surface area but also be more cost effective than traditional solar pannels. It wouldn't take much effort to have ever square inch of metal covered in that stuff.
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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2012, 12:50:52 AM »
That thing is just straight lame no matter how well it works....
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I think 4 stroke dirtbikes are a phase, kind of like "Glam Rock" in a way. You see the whole world subscribing to it, and you wonder how everyone could be choking down so much Kool Aid and Spam... Then 10 Years later, nothing's left but the timeless stuff from before and after..

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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2012, 08:01:48 AM »
Well now that cold fusion looks like a reality, I'd imagine something like the ktm with some kind of solid state cold fusion reactor and would most likely last the life of the bike before it would need refueling :o
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2012, 10:11:17 AM »
Well now that cold fusion looks like a reality, I'd imadine something like the ktm with some kind of solid state cold fusion reactor and would most likely last the life of the bike before it would need refueling :o

Making nuclear materials available to the general public doesn't sound like the best of ideas :P
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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2012, 10:39:43 AM »
Well now that cold fusion looks like a reality, I'd imadine something like the ktm with some kind of solid state cold fusion reactor and would most likely last the life of the bike before it would need refueling :o

Making nuclear materials available to the general public doesn't sound like the best of ideas :P

All materials are nuclear, cold fusion can use hydrogen and nickle to make a reaction.
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« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2012, 10:47:04 AM »
solar panels are old hat fellas, they cost alot to produce (dollars) and only start making + CO2 net emmissions after atleast 50% service life.

The future for solar is photo-voltaic electroplating and coatings.

a study found that if the 1 years market supply (USA only) of corrugated iron roof sheeting was coated with the current coatings it would be able to power the enter USA. They are currently trying to now find practical, safe and offordable ways to introduce this to the market.

it can also be coated on glass, plastics and ceramics.

in 10 years, the panels on your car may be solar panels that trickle charge your battery, and the window next to your desk at work powers your computer

That is really cool, Jeram and I am not doubting the technology. I just doubt we'll ever see it. The problem isn't with HOW to move to some form or solar or other free power, it is HOW TO CHARGE FOR IT. Honda had a great Hydrogen power test in L.A. many years ago. They installed a charger/converter in each house (garage) and not only did it fill the vehicle, but it powered the house! Big energy would never allow that and after 2 years, Honda pulled the plug (so to speak).

Now don't quote me on any of the details above as I just pulled that from (fading) memory but I am sure the information is out there in Googleland.
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« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2012, 11:41:35 AM »
solar panels are old hat fellas, they cost alot to produce (dollars) and only start making + CO2 net emmissions after atleast 50% service life.

The future for solar is photo-voltaic electroplating and coatings.

a study found that if the 1 years market supply (USA only) of corrugated iron roof sheeting was coated with the current coatings it would be able to power the enter USA. They are currently trying to now find practical, safe and offordable ways to introduce this to the market.

it can also be coated on glass, plastics and ceramics.

in 10 years, the panels on your car may be solar panels that trickle charge your battery, and the window next to your desk at work powers your computer

That is really cool, Jeram and I am not doubting the technology. I just doubt we'll ever see it. The problem isn't with HOW to move to some form or solar or other free power, it is HOW TO CHARGE FOR IT. Honda had a great Hydrogen power test in L.A. many years ago. They installed a charger/converter in each house (garage) and not only did it fill the vehicle, but it powered the house! Big energy would never allow that and after 2 years, Honda pulled the plug (so to speak).

Now don't quote me on any of the details above as I just pulled that from (fading) memory but I am sure the information is out there in Googleland.

I think its viable.

In Australia we just passed a carbon tax, which in the simplest form is aimed to make fossil fuels obsolete by putting a large tax levy on them.

by making carbon expensive, it makes everything else a viable investment opertunity by comparison!

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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2012, 02:23:54 PM »
Are we as motorcyclists supposed to be happy about that??? Sounds like you need to start clubbing some of your stupid poiticos....
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I think 4 stroke dirtbikes are a phase, kind of like "Glam Rock" in a way. You see the whole world subscribing to it, and you wonder how everyone could be choking down so much Kool Aid and Spam... Then 10 Years later, nothing's left but the timeless stuff from before and after..

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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2012, 02:51:28 PM »
Are we as motorcyclists supposed to be happy about that??? Sounds like you need to start clubbing some of your stupid poiticos....

We can use the ones taken away from the Baby Seal Hunters...
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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2012, 04:41:04 PM »
I don't care one way or the other because I don't see it happening in any of our lifetimes.

I worked a Canadian national trials about a month ago, and they had a class for kids on these

http://www.osetbikes.com/

There were a few 4 year olds and they were getting at least 2 hour out of a battery and the bikes were very capable... and the kids were having a blast.

I see no downside to this

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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2012, 05:14:46 PM »
I have been searching for the OSET 12.0 and can't find one.  ??? I've emailed OSET but got no response.  >:-D  I have cash in hand!  ;D

I really want my kid to grow up with a trials background (he's 2.5 and can identify 15 of the 17 bikes in my garage as well as many of our local riders).

He was making two-stroke sounds long before he could talk.
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« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2012, 06:39:11 PM »
Cold fusion is a myth

Well now that cold fusion looks like a reality, I'd imadine something like the ktm with some kind of solid state cold fusion reactor and would most likely last the life of the bike before it would need refueling :o

Making nuclear materials available to the general public doesn't sound like the best of ideas :P

All materials are nuclear, cold fusion can use hydrogen and nickle to make a reaction.
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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2012, 07:42:31 PM »
It isn't a myth, we just don't have the material(Helium 3) to do it. Also, Cold fusion is safe...
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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2012, 09:42:48 PM »
You are all off base here. move this stupid electric bicycle chat to the non two-stroke forum please.
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« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2012, 10:04:57 PM »
Cold fusion is a "myth" is just like saying 9/11 was carried out by "terrorist"
It's comming apparently


Cold fusion is a myth

Well now that cold fusion looks like a reality, I'd imadine something like the ktm with some kind of solid state cold fusion reactor and would most likely last the life of the bike before it would need refueling :o

Making nuclear materials available to the general public doesn't sound like the best of ideas :P

All materials are nuclear, cold fusion can use hydrogen and nickle to make a reaction.
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